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  •  head explodes? (2+ / 0-)

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    heh. Just wait until the UN issue resolution with no  pre-condition and a threat of global trade embargo ala South Africa.

    Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

    by fugue on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:06:44 AM PDT

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    •  It will be a cold day in hell when that happens (1+ / 0-)

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      The way to a Palestinian state is through direct negotiations with Israel.  Anything else will result in continuing misery for the Palestinians.

      (As for "trade embargo" we saw how well that worked with Iraq.).

      by Drgrishka1 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 03:37:59 PM PDT

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      •  yeah right (0+ / 0-)

        The way to Palestinian state is to bludgeon Israel to submission.

        Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

        by fugue on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 04:28:10 PM PDT

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        •  because 40 years of attempting to do that (1+ / 0-)

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          has really worked.

          by Drgrishka1 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 05:14:08 PM PDT

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          •  Try international embargo (0+ / 0-)

            and pulling the foreign aid plug. It'll take less than 5 years for Israel to start doing the "I wanna peace" dance.

            There should be a concerted international effort to give Israel one final chance.

            accept peace deal or

            permanent pariah status.

            1. permanent Interntional embargo. (Israel would have to eat sands and orange juice and tossing stones to start their next war. Nevermind F-16 or short range SLBM.)  None of their military equipment is sustainable without international trade.
            1. Offer Israel full international recognition in place of Palestinian independence and full and final  peace agreement.

            Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

            by fugue on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 05:49:04 PM PDT

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            •  I haven't seen international embargo (1+ / 0-)

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              working on Hamas.  Why would it work on Israel.

              I also have not seen that really work on Burma.

              Regadless, that will never happen (despite your dreams to the contrary).  If for no other reason than Israel being the only democracy and the only progressive country in the Middle East.

              If 40 years of terrorism has not broken Israel, none of your empty threats will.

              by Drgrishka1 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 06:10:24 PM PDT

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              •  It works nicely on south africa (0+ / 0-)

                And it works nicely to some degree on Hamas. (eg. Abbas still a PM, they form unity government)

                With Israel, since it's actually a functioning country that depends on large inflow of intrnational money and weapon, the impact will be devestating. Specially to their core expansion strategy.

                Their economy will be pretty much imploding in less than 5 years. (observe during intifada where Israel economy contracted 3-5%) and that was not even a big event in term of economy.

                Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)

                by fugue on Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 07:29:30 AM PDT

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                •  Keep dreaming (0+ / 0-)

                  Israel has a track record of negotiating equitable peace deals.  See, e.g., Egypt, Jordan.

                  Hamas can't even decently negotiate with Fatah.

                  Israel is not the one that needs a kick in the ass.  

                  There will be no negotiations with anyone committed to the destruction of Israel.  You, however, by virtue of the First Amendment are free to bemoan that.

                  by Drgrishka1 on Thu Apr 05, 2007 at 09:18:50 AM PDT

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