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I will modify my spelling, and thank you for pointing out my mistake. I also don't believe I'm touting anything, I'm still choosing between Senator Obama and Senator McCain.
Conservative. noun. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from a Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -Ambrose Bierce
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 06:56:02 AM PDT
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We simply do not encourage posts by people who could think of voting for a Republican candidate.
Guess what. Kossacks continue to be very rude. I am for Obama, but I'm not a Kossack.
by DCDemocrat on Thu May 10, 2007 at 06:56:58 AM PDT
I suppose everyone is entitled to their views, and I suspect that if enough people feel the way you do I will be.. what is the term ("troll rated?") off. I do suspect though that type of attitude wouldn't exactly ender the site to many moderates or independents.
A vital voting bloc, each side needs to win.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:00:10 AM PDT
you are trying to decide between a prewar candidate and an anti war candidate?
Seriously?
You really haven't made up your mind as to whether the war in Iraq is good or bad?
To a tapeworm, man exists for the tapeworm. - Edward Abbey
by jimraff on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:09:04 AM PDT
Those two seem like such polar opposites across the board. I'd be curious to hear IM's thoughts on why he/she is deciding between these two in particular.
Your ad could be here.
by TheC on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:11:54 AM PDT
I'm waiting the week before I can post a diary, I'm kind of shifting between explaining why I'm at the site, or why I'm struggling between McCain and Obama.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:18:45 AM PDT
It's possible he's the notorious rmg, the bestest troll of 'em all from four years back. There are elements to his story that bring back the narratives rmg most favored in his various incarnations.
by DCDemocrat on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:14:45 AM PDT
(Notorious rmg?)
Why is he so notorious?
I suppose I can say that I'm not the guy, I doubt it will change your mind. Anyway, I'm not and I hope my words will bear that out.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:17:48 AM PDT
I've got various feelings about Iraq, honestly I should be there right now but due to a freak accident in basic, I'm stuck waiting to reenlist in the military.
I'm looking for more then how they would handle Iraq, I'm also looking at how they perceive NATO, the UN, dealing with groups like Al-Qaeda.
Iran, Russia, China, there is so much more then Iraq that I'm looking at.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:16:28 AM PDT
is choose my biggest issue, and go with the candidate that I agree with the most.
Since the Iraq war is THE biggest issue, I want it to end. There is no question that a Dem is what I want.
Iraq must not be that big an issue to you.
by jimraff on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:35:59 AM PDT
The last sentence was uncalled for, guy's I spent time training with are now in Iraq, and Afghanistan. I can understand if you disagree with me about my views, but I would please ask you not suggest something so baseless and insulting as that.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:38:24 AM PDT
I am trying to figure out where you are coming from. I get you want foreign policy, great.
For me there is no bigger issue then stopping the war and bringing those guys home. I have to many friends who also have been in Iraq, and have come home very different than when they went. One guy can not even return to work becuase of Post traumatic stress.
I want it to end - I want our guys home.
This is not insulting to those guys, or to you. I respectfully think bringing them home is more supportive then sending them back unready into a war zone we should not have been in to begin with.
Really, I am just trying to figure out what your biggest issue is. From your statement above, the war isn't it.
by jimraff on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:43:32 AM PDT
My biggest issue is where exactly will the president take our foreign policy when elected, will he focus on alliances, and containment? Or active intervention, that is my main issue.
Iraq, my feelings are mixed.
I realize the war was gone onto under false pretenses, still I didn't enlist for nothing. I'm still working out my feelings on that issue, so right now I will just hope for success.
I suppose I might have overreacted, and I apologize. If you would like a more detailed view on a specific issue, let me know.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:47:21 AM PDT
My biggest issue is where exactly will the president take our foreign policy when elected, will he focus on alliances, and containment? Or active intervention, that is my main issue
will he focus....?
or, will she focus...?
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by nolalily on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:30:47 PM PDT
And I invite you to read up on McCain. There's a lot of commentary about him on this blog.
The first thing you will notice is that you really can't believe a word he says. I'm not sure that we need to know anything more than that.
by I on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:21:00 AM PDT
I disagree with you about Senator McCain, but perhaps as my friend suggests I might change my views. Time will have to tell.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:44:02 AM PDT
And also believe that you will ultimately see through McCain, as I have after fifteen years of living in Arizona.
Meanwhile, there's lots to read here, so dive in and enjoy!
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by emeraldmaiden on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:59:40 AM PDT
Though if I read everything that looked interesting here, I would end up getting fired and failing college.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 08:03:27 AM PDT
To speak on his behalf here. Especially in regards to his recent trip to Iraq where he took a casual "stroll" in Baghdad accompanied by nothing more than 100 armed soldiers and 5 helicopters overhead. And wearing a flak jacket.
I'm especially interested in hearing your opinion of his credibility after that incident.
Joe Scarborough
by slippytoad on Thu May 10, 2007 at 08:15:06 AM PDT
I had to wince while watching the Senator doing that, honestly where were his political handlers? I think a meeting with the Sheiks in the Anbar province who are working with American Marines against Al-Qaeda might have been a better photo op.
Anyway I can't defend a stupid move, nor would I try.
by IndepedentMachavellian on Thu May 10, 2007 at 08:29:46 AM PDT
To tell him that this:
There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk today."
Could then credibly be followed by "walking" with such a heavily armed guard, he doesn't have a whole lot of a future as a politician. The pure stupid of that moment is far above and beyond such Presidential-Aspriation-Strangling moments as Dean's Scream, or Dukakis' Tank Ride.
And that you can't see that is revealing of your ability to gauge someone's credibility.
by slippytoad on Thu May 10, 2007 at 04:20:37 PM PDT
I personally welcome the participation of anyone who is respectful, open-minded, and cares about our country and our world. I certainly hope you will come to agree with the general orientation here, but that is up to you. Don't be discouraged. Sometimes individuals here can be pretty brutal in their responses, but don't take a comment made by one individual as the position of "Daily Kos" as a whole.
"Strength and wisdom are not opposing values" - Bill Clinton, 2004 Democratic Convention
by AceDeuceLady on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:44:13 AM PDT
We need everyone involved in the discussion. We need to know what people are concerned about and what they think. And I'd sure rather see people getting their info here than almost anywhere else.
by AceDeuceLady on Thu May 10, 2007 at 07:35:57 AM PDT
But posts by people who will vote for a third party candidate and help the Republican nominee get elected/selected are okay?
And posts by Democrats who will stay home if the Democratic nominee is Hillary or Obama (or whomever they don't like) are okay?
At least one of IndependentMachavellian's choices is a Democrat.
No distractions. Not this time.
by royce on Thu May 10, 2007 at 08:13:39 AM PDT
wide narrow
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