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Of course, most of the soldier didn't volunteer such remarks and probably considered themselves charitable to the Palestinians, given the circumstances. One soldier who detained us for half an hour bragged about all the food and medicine he'd allowed through. He couldn't understand what the Palestinians were still complaining about. I asked him where he was from. "Tel Aviv." "So if armed Palestinians invaded Tel Aviv, shut the entire population in their homes, and allowed aid workers to bring around food and medicine, you wouldn't complain?" He said that was different. I asked how. He changed the subject. I asked him how long he was going to punish my colleague and me by detaining us on the street. He said he wasn't punishing us, that we just had to wait a little while, which was normal. I asked: "So if armed Palestinians stopped you outside your house, demanded your ID, and prevented you from going to work, you would consider that normal?" He changed the subject again.
Of course, most of the soldier didn't volunteer such remarks and probably considered themselves charitable to the Palestinians, given the circumstances. One soldier who detained us for half an hour bragged about all the food and medicine he'd allowed through. He couldn't understand what the Palestinians were still complaining about. I asked him where he was from.
"Tel Aviv."
"So if armed Palestinians invaded Tel Aviv, shut the entire population in their homes, and allowed aid workers to bring around food and medicine, you wouldn't complain?"
He said that was different. I asked how. He changed the subject. I asked him how long he was going to punish my colleague and me by detaining us on the street. He said he wasn't punishing us, that we just had to wait a little while, which was normal. I asked:
"So if armed Palestinians stopped you outside your house, demanded your ID, and prevented you from going to work, you would consider that normal?" He changed the subject again.
An interesting conversation, indeed. Cognitive dissonance is indeed a universal affect.
...i realize now / you were not to be blamed, my love / you didn't choose your name, my love...
by Diaries on Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:31:47 AM PDT
resident and her movement can be properly restricted by the competent administering authority of the foreign country.
by Drgrishka1 on Mon May 14, 2007 at 10:00:44 AM PDT
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And the dissonance rang loudly in their exchanges :^)
by Diaries on Mon May 14, 2007 at 10:02:51 AM PDT
The point is comparing her (a foreigner) being restricted in movement in the West Bank (a foreign country) and an Israeli being restricted in movement in his own country is pretty ludicrious.
by Drgrishka1 on Mon May 14, 2007 at 10:12:11 AM PDT
...she wasn't the only one whose movements were restricted that day (obviously). She was traveling with Palestinians, and they all got to watch the soldier's head explode while he tried justifying the unjustifiable. What's good for unarmed Palestinians at the mercy of armed Israelis suddenly becomes unacceptable vis-a-vis unarmed Israelis at the mercy of armed Palestinians? Who would'a thunk it!
by Diaries on Mon May 14, 2007 at 10:14:43 AM PDT
That is ludicrious.
And also, if Israelis spent the last 60 years attempting to destroy the Palestinian state waging no less than 5 wars on it, we would have something to talk about.
by Drgrishka1 on Mon May 14, 2007 at 10:22:49 AM PDT
The point stands.
What's good for unarmed Palestinians at the mercy of armed Israelis suddenly becomes unacceptable vis-a-vis unarmed Israelis at the mercy of armed Palestinians? Who would'a thunk it!
And it's quite interesting how you've managed to avoid it for three consecutive posts :^)
by Diaries on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:49:58 AM PDT
by Drgrishka1 on Mon May 14, 2007 at 02:03:09 PM PDT
is the one where she sits down with members of Al Aqsa. That's a terrorist group - no ifs, ands or buts about it, no hyperbole, nothing. That's what they are, per the Department of State. This diary needs to be yanked. Now. We're not going to get a lot of Democrats elected if people post their happy coffee klatches with terrorists on this site.
Now I suppose someone's going to say I'm intolerant of other viewpoints and just want to squelch debate.
And there we are, the beautiful; eating from TV trays, tuned in to Happy Days.
by MBNYC on Mon May 14, 2007 at 02:23:43 PM PDT
wide narrow
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