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  •  No. (6+ / 0-)

    "Every goddamn Republican in the country is a traitor." -- Perry Logan.

    by Andy Lewis on Sun May 06, 2007 at 09:36:42 AM PDT

    •  But is that the point of counterpunch? (4+ / 0-)

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      Cockburn is a rabble rouser.  Counterpunch is not unlike dkos except that the moderation is not so moderate and you have to make it past the editor -- you'll find all sorts of stuff, of varying levels of literary and editorial quality, and you have to sort it out for yourself.  Cockburn going off on global warming is not a reason to say that counterpunch sucks always and forever.  That's just silly..

      •  They claim to be a "newsletter" (3+ / 0-)

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        publishing "news articles."

        And Cockburn is one of the principals of the operation.  Doesn't that call for at least a passing attempt at truthfulness?

        John McCain - all aboard the lobbyist express!

        by jrooth on Sun May 06, 2007 at 10:16:49 AM PDT

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        •  I dunno... (1+ / 0-)

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          I felt a bit more like you did (though I've consistently enjoyed some of the writers, and Cockburn poking at Hitchens is always fun in a catfighty sorta way) before I heard Cockburn talking about Jill Johnston back in their Village Voice days.  Johnston -- if you haven't read her -- is this over the top stream of conciousness feminist (of the most doctrinare and yet clinically bipolar sort), who is occassionally grandly truthful and occassionally hateful.  But his attitude, while taking all that into account, had a certain real affection for her work, for the whole wild variety of the place at that time.  It gave me a little more of that cynical affection toward his own work; Counterpunch publishes people all across the spectrum out on the edge, who are trying to critique events.  It's more than a passing attempt at truthfulness, it's an earnest attempt at it -- but it's not trying to be the NYT, either.  All of them -- and Cockburn himself -- misfire, and sometimes badly.

      •  CounterPunch - like kos only with less (1+ / 0-)

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        fact checking.

        "Every goddamn Republican in the country is a traitor." -- Perry Logan.

        by Andy Lewis on Sun May 06, 2007 at 10:52:49 AM PDT

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      •  Cockburn is not a 'rabble rouser', he's a liar. (0+ / 0-)

        I think the real point of counterpunch is to distract and discredit the progressive movement.

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