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she's one of the most commercially successful singers of the last twenty years.
Somebody's listening to her, and I suspect her demographic is middle-aged women. Which Clinton can't win without.
So go figure.
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by decembersue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:21:51 AM PDT
Clinton is unelectable for one reason....
NO FUCKING TASTE in music.
Kenny G, Celine Dion, getting blow job from ugly face.
lol.
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by fugue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:29:37 AM PDT
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in very large numbers, and they vote :)
by decembersue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:32:41 AM PDT
Anybody who buys those category should be round up and forced to live inside walmart store for the rest of their live.
by fugue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:39:15 AM PDT
for several years Lifetime was the most watched cable network. #1. They've slipped to about #5, though, so there is hope.
Adult contemporary is one of the top radio formats, and celine is there queen, so like I said, they're out there...
by decembersue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:44:34 AM PDT
How one choose music can tells a lot, specially in politics.
Clinton is choosing Celine Dion for "common denominator" value. It is reflective of her politics. In turn, her world view. That everything is for sale, can be manipulated with enough PR effort, and NO FUCKING taste.
by fugue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:51:08 AM PDT
Clinton didn't "choose" it. It worked like American Idol. Get it?
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by rserven on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:52:37 AM PDT
I think maybe comparing it to AI just made me feel a little worse.
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by snookybeh on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:34:58 AM PDT
somebody has to target the contest market, pay money, select initial list, talk up/talk down the music, and ultimately friggin pay royalty for choosing some song. Or at least get lawyer permission.
It's about as democratic as Iraq's purple finger. You know what I mean?
People my foot. What's next Hillary is not really a DLC war cheerleader? She just loves middle east politics?
by fugue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:00:52 AM PDT
You hate her and want to find every reason you can to justify that hate. But finding conspiracy in the choice of song is making you look silly.
by rserven on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 11:39:01 AM PDT
on top of war cheerleader, she has bad taste in music. nevermind conspiracy.
by fugue on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 01:38:54 PM PDT
The original, I mean. Not the speedfreak remake.
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by pontechango on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:09:37 AM PDT
Adopting Christian "rap" music as their campaign theme song, just so they can pander to the Religious right.
It's no offense to Christians & gospel music on the one hand or to hip-hop music on the other that the two just don't mix well together, like pickles and ice cream.
by cmoreNC on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:46:58 AM PDT
I knew this girl who had really great taste in music and all things, except she inexplicably loved Air Supply. Go figure.
by snookybeh on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:44:24 AM PDT
...and Michael Bolton ...and Celine Dion They also vote. But surely there are ways to appeal to these voters than by blatent pandering to bland musical tastes. Somehow the Kennedys figured out how to appeal to inspirational values in people without resort to hiring Lawrence Welk as their backup band.
by cmoreNC on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:39:12 AM PDT
I think it's fairly representative of this entire thread.
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by Edgar08 on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:47:49 AM PDT
and none of the women I know can stand CD. I don't know another human being who can stand her. I don't know who's buying her music, but jeez...
But we're weirdo bohemian ne'erdowells, so we're not her demo, I guess. ;-)
by snookybeh on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:33:48 AM PDT
and I would be far happier listening to nails on a blackboard than Celine Dion.
And I like lots of different kinds of music from all different eras. I like opera, show tunes, early jazz, country music, blues, rock, punk.....I think you get the idea. I think this was a huge mistake on her part, no matter whether there's a legion of Celine Dion fans out there.
First of all, there's evidently also a legion of people who can't stand her - us. I admit that I wouldn't withhold my vote solely because of this, but like you, it doesn't make it any easier for me to contemplate a HRC vote.
Second of all, the wingnuts are going to have a field day pointing out that she's Canadian. And French-Canadian, at that! They're going to be assuring their believers that HRC will turn the US into Canada if we give her the chance.
And third of all, it's a commercial. A jingle for Air Canada. Have you ever flown Air Canada? Well, I have, and I don't recommend it.
Even the video, which I thought was quite clever and funny, will be fodder for the wingnuts: they've always contended that the Clintons were like the Mafia, now they'll say they have proof.
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by sidnora on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 08:58:51 AM PDT
this site for fodder. They'll enjoy the outrage about a canadian singer even though she's contributed plenty to this county. Worse yet, I think her first language was French. Oh the horrors!! Time to go back to freedom fries and to ratchet up the rhetoric about the dangers of cheaper Canadian meds. No matter, we're being poisened on all types of products from China that the gov't doesn't seem to care enough about to inspect. Yep a Celine Dion song is everything that's wrong with this country. Jeesh.............
by astoundedstill on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:06:56 AM PDT
...a primary.
And there we are, the beautiful; eating from TV trays, tuned in to Happy Days.
by MBNYC on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:09:41 AM PDT
I think, from a technical and marketing standpoint, is great; very emotional, and I love the way it blends different forms of movement into a compelling storyline.
But still, even if they had tried, they couldn't have sent a worse meta-message; this reinforces every single critique, justified or not, that Hillary is a soulless corporate drone, tone-deaf, a panderer, and so on. Picking a song that seems designed to pander commercially to middle-aged women, an obviously safe choice, again comes across as calculating, even if she had nothing to do with the selection itself.
It's a metaphor. Captures her perfectly.
by MBNYC on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:08:52 AM PDT
Sure, we do. But we aren't the millions who hear an inoffensive upbeat pop song about "soaring", "flying", about nothing really. And that's what the Clinton wants. In spades.
Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious
by Scarce on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:39:16 AM PDT
the conventional wisdom seems to be that music like Dion's is a "safe" choice because of the mediocrity. Yet I can't really think of too many choices that would inspire such intense dislike, if not downright hatred.
I mean, she could have gone with Klezmer, and that would have alienated some people too. (Though I doubt she's going after the Aryan Nation vote anyway.)
I would have applauded the bold choice, but that's just me. ;-)
by snookybeh on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:40:54 AM PDT
The distinction is important. What some would see as vapid or bland many others will find completely palatable.
by Scarce on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:46:20 AM PDT
but even I would not have suggested that.
That I hate Celine Dion is really kind of silly and beside the point, to tell the truth, and I very much doubt that anyone would base their voting decision on a campaign song; apart from "Don't Stop" and "Happy Days Are Here Again" can you name a single one? And the only reason we boomers remember "Don't Stop" is because it was the first rock campaign song.
It just blows my mind that HRC is politically tone-deaf enough to choose a song by someone who's not an American. No matter how much good CD has done for her adopted country, there are hundreds of American musicians who could have supplied songs more stirring, more appropriate, and better musically (John Mellencamp, anyone?), and noone would ever have thought to say that Hillary Clinton did a bad thing because she didn't choose a Celine Dion song for her campaign.
by sidnora on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:11:54 AM PDT
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by Donna in Rome on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 12:06:25 PM PDT
those that say everyone hates her....for someone everybody hates, she sure is popular.
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by Inland on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 09:02:21 AM PDT
wide narrow
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