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As a college student are you planning on buying a brand new car? And if so, were you going to buy a gas guzzling SUV?
If you're a college student who can afford a brand new SUV, I bet you could afford the tax too. On the other hand, if you're looking into buying a new hybrid, Jotham's plan will save YOU money.
At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup, you c*nt. - Sen. John McCain
by Potus2020 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 09:34:27 AM PDT
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Is not a hybrid, I live in a rural state and hybrids are not as common as you'd think. I will probably end up with a car made ten years ago, and not very fuel efficient.
Truth will often set you free, remember though. Freedom is never free, and the costs are often steep depending on the truth.
by ThinkingAmerican on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 09:37:12 AM PDT
the tax AND the rebate will apply to new cars only.
If you got a brand new Hummer or a brand new Suburban or a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee, you'll pay extra.
If you got say a brand new Honda Civic or a brand new Toyota Prius Hybrid, you'd get a rebate.
If you buy a used car, you won't be affected.
by Potus2020 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 09:42:33 AM PDT
I love the idea of tax breaks, trust me I jump for joy whenever their proposed. I figure the government can spend millions of a bridge for 30 people in Alaska, then they can have less of my money.
That being said.
You have to make it economically healthy for the Auto makers to want to make hybrids, capitalism works far better then any government program.
What I would like to see is a sit down between the government, unions, and major automakers so they can hammer out a series of tax breaks that would be most effective for both.
by ThinkingAmerican on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 09:47:56 AM PDT
The problem with conservatism is that it's based on the premise that government can not be used as a tool for us to move our nation forward. As a result we've seen major incompetence from D.C. -- think Katrina.
Jotham Stein's plan is simple. If you buy a Hummer, you pay a pollution tax. If you buy a fuel efficient car (not necessarily a hybrid) you get a tax break.
This will encourage people to buy the fuel-efficient cars and encourage auto makers to make gas guzzlers fuel efficient so they can keep selling them.
Now if you have a problem with government programs, I don't think you're going to like any Democratic candidate running for any office. Chances are there will be a government plan or two in their platforms.
by Potus2020 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:01:14 AM PDT
I like a small, lean, government. Under the President we've seen the Federal Government gone wild, and this worries me.
I don't want the government turning into a fifty-foot leviathan, I'm with the founders on this issue. They distrusted government, and for good reason.
Now as long as the government can learn a semblance of fiscal responsibility, and can be clear as to what the purpose of the program is.
I would be less hostile.
As for Democratic candidates, I like Obama because of his JFK sounding foreign policy, and general fact the man is an orator.
I'm not sure if he said something about changing affirmative action or not, I will have to look that up.
That being said, if the government could trim it's belt, I might be more receptive to some programs.
by ThinkingAmerican on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:06:13 AM PDT
And you're right, the Bush Republicans have grown the size of the government and the size of our deficit to epic proportions. It has to stop.
That being said, keep in mind that the gas-guzzler tax doesn't go to the government. They don't get to spend it. The tax goes directly to the rebates. There's no growing the government involved.
Eventually, auto makers will improve the efficiency of their vehicles and the need for the tax as well as the rebate will be eliminated.
by Potus2020 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:12:58 AM PDT
Then again it's not really average joe blow buying SUV's. Still I would like to know how much this tax would be exactly.
by ThinkingAmerican on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:18:42 AM PDT
I don't know if there are any specific numbers, but you'll get a more in-depth explanation of how the plan works and some other ideas he has for fighting global warming.
by Potus2020 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 at 10:23:34 AM PDT
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