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  •  How do they pull this crap off ? I thought (3+ / 0-)

    California was Democrat other than Governor Arnollld Swerznegers..These, repubs, got to hand it too em are a hell of a lot more savy politcally than Dems ! I dont get it, I really do not...The devil works in mysterious ways, I guess...

    "Better a little late, than a little never"..Julian Winston

    by Johnny Rapture on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 07:48:40 PM PDT

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    •  I worked in the corporate world (5+ / 0-)

      This saviness comes from making the Almighty Dollah. They have practiced the art of getting what they want, drinking the Kool-aid, taking no prisoners, winning at all costs, counting nothing out, no options off the table... and have applied these skills to politics.

      •  Got ya ! Sort of like a bunch of American (1+ / 0-)

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        cognitive dissonance

        Psychos..You see them but nobody resides behind the eyes and the faces[Masks]..Ah, like Senator[?] Vitttners, Laurita Doans, killemall koulter, shemp hannity, billed o'lielly, Monika Godling, Cheshire gonzolos, et al..Hoosiers, one of my fav movies..I'll make it..Team..I love you guys..Yep height is 10 feet exactly..Dont get caught watching the paint dry..

        "Better a little late, than a little never"..Julian Winston

        by Johnny Rapture on Sun Aug 19, 2007 at 09:10:15 PM PDT

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        •  Heh (2+ / 0-)

          That is one of the better responses... still trying to figure out the last part (I was never a basketball fan.  Yes I know, I know -- not allowed, but I like football and baseball.  I know; I should just move.)  

          I was actually a programmer; always hated it, but it was a living.  We got screwed by everyone (carried pagers, on call continually, hardly given comp time and paid 'salary' so they'd never owe us overtime.  The ultimate chump job.) They've outsourced us now anyway.

          I didn't work in the corporate world for long before I was thoroughly disgusted, and so I started working as an IS person in hospitals, hoping to 'make a difference, there.  But of course, the corporate world eventually gobbled up hospital management, and suddenly there were layoffs, 'reorganizations,' pay cuts, and terrible moral there as well.  

          My favorite memory though is from while I still worked in a small company that did internet design, and they were eaten up by a larger company.  We were all called into a meeting and told it was time to 'drink the Kool-Aid.'  They really said this.  We were supposed to start lying to our customers - basically screw over people with whom we already had a working relationship - simply to make MO MONEY.  It was appalling.  And the worst part was that no one around me seemed the slightest bit upset by this... lack of ethics.  

    •  Savvy, perhaps. But, I think it's more that... (1+ / 0-)

      they're willing to break the law to garner power and wealth.

      To the Rovian Republicans, the end justifies the means, and if all of society acted accordingly - America would never have achieved as a country - anything above banana republic status.

      That's why they'll lose both in '08 and beyond. Their theory is flawed. And the people are wiser. It's not pragmatic enough and alienates too many people in the process.

      And, that's why the Republican's bizarre power grab in California won't work. Even if it had public support, and it surely doesn't, it still has constitutional issues. The Dems could theoretically keep this "initiative" tied up in the courts for months even years.

      If it comes down to the courts, there ain't a judge alive that would hold up an election over a dubious initiative not even backed up by the Constitution.

      Just sayin'

      "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."- Voltaire - [François Marie Arouet] (1694-1778)

      by markthshark on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 12:25:45 AM PDT

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