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  •  "Not belong to" defined (0+ / 0-)

    He can go to any church he chooses on his own time, it is not the role of the taxpayer to fund his prosyltizing. If he wants to go fishing for souls to convert he should avoid using his public profile to sell himself and his organisation. I get the definite impression this is marketing to soldiers etc.. too much rah rah for little old ladies.

    Secondly, a great deal of reading has me understanding there were definitely issues surrounding religion at the USAF Academy in Colorado. Can we agree on that?

    Think Tank. "A place where people are paid to think by the makers of tanks" Naomi Klein.

    by ohcanada on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 12:23:35 PM PDT

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    •  How exactly (0+ / 0-)

      Seriously you assume too much, as do many people unfortunately. What evidence do you have that he's using tax payer dollars for his involvement in the private, religious organization? The only thing you have showed me is that A: he's in the Navy. And B: He's a key person in a religious organization.

      He's probably a great guy and a fine officer, as I have no reason to believe otherwise.

      On the Air Force Academy issue, I haven't read or heard about any issues. The only thing I can judge is 9 1/2 years of military experience in two different branches. Most Soldiers and Marines I've worked with aren't even religious in the conventional sense. The ones that are have always been due to their upbringing.

      If you ever worked with or around military personnel for any length of time you'd realize this is a non-issue.

      GOBAMA!

      by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 12:54:57 PM PDT

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      •  Nice to hear that its a non issue (0+ / 0-)

        reassuring in fact.

        I don't think you responded to the fragging threat, what exactly is driving that if it isn't religion.

        Thanks for your patience.

        Think Tank. "A place where people are paid to think by the makers of tanks" Naomi Klein.

        by ohcanada on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 03:15:39 PM PDT

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        •  IMO it's a BS story (0+ / 0-)

          I was actually posting in a diary talking about that supposed threat. Even the original source of that story said they have not yet substantiated the claim.

          The person in question is SPC Jeremy Hall. I asked for a middle name so I can email him.

          I'm willing to bet you accepted it as fact with no proof, right?

          GOBAMA!

          by USArmyParatrooper on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 03:51:34 PM PDT

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          •  For your edification (0+ / 0-)

            http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom....

            I guess we will see soon enough, freedom of and from religion matters to some. If SPC Hall actually contacted them maybe there is something to it. I was not aware of the website before. Kos is a good site for policing out lies simply by way of the recommends and troll buttons.

            Think Tank. "A place where people are paid to think by the makers of tanks" Naomi Klein.

            by ohcanada on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 08:40:46 PM PDT

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            •  From what I've seen about Troll buttons... (0+ / 0-)

              If someone has an unpopular opinion, others are free to make outrageous insults to the individual. But when that person responds in kind some TU comes along and says, "troll!"

              It happened to me and I've seen it happen to another guy. Frankly, I don't care about being "troll rated".

              Just by everything I have known and experienced makes me question this story as it is written. Of course, our military is 2.3 million strong and has existed for over 232 years. By laws of numbers there's going to be anomalies and happenings that are NOT representative of what is normal or acceptable.

              Again, from 9 1/2 years of total military experience in two different branches, I am absolutely confident that "forced religion" isn't a problem. And I said before my own experience makes me question the validity of this story. And as I said in another thread every soldier is entitled to file a complaint with their IG (Inspector General), either anonymously or otherwise. IG responds fairly aggressively to even small complaints. They would be all over something of this magnitude.

              If you could find out SPC Hall's middle name, I will email him personally.

              GOBAMA!

              by USArmyParatrooper on Mon Sep 24, 2007 at 08:18:04 AM PDT

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