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  •  I agree on a spiritual level, but I don't see the (0+ / 0-)

    society of humans at that level yet unfortunately. And until women and minorities are treated respectfully, equally by the media and those in charge it has everything to do with who I am today. Right now I see that as a control issue. Keep the restless politically correct and mute their individuality for who's advantage? Not mine.

    I'm just riled up today.

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones"

    by roseeriter on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 04:34:21 AM PDT

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    •  So you want sexism, as long as you benefit? (2+ / 0-)

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      No, thank you. It doesn't work that way.

      If you let the camel's nose in, the whole camel comes with it. If you admit that it's fair to support a candidate for being a woman, or for being black, then it must also be fair to dismiss a candidate for being a woman, or for being black.

      Doing either of those last two will get one flayed alive here, and rightly so. Doing the first two should get one no better treatment.

      So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

      by khereva on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:34:43 AM PDT

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      •  and where does free speech come in there? (0+ / 0-)

        "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones"

        by roseeriter on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:37:31 AM PDT

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        •  It comes in where you also accept (1+ / 0-)

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          other's right to criticize your speech.

          You're free to say (hypothetically: I do not accuse you of saying so) that you think Hillary deserves to be President precisely because she is a woman (a particularly idiotic sentiment directly expressed by one diarist yesterday). And I'm free to remind you that that's simple bigotry. You're free to demonstrate otherwise, or to say you think I'm a poopiehead, or talk about something entirely different. That's Free Speech.

          But if you decide to argue that Hillary deserves to be President simply because she has XX chromosomes, then you have brought into the debate whole libraries of argument about biology determining behavior, gender creating moral value, and which stereotypically gendered qualities are good or bad to exhibit, and I suggest without malice that this is not a move you wish to make. That, too, by the way, is Free Speech.

          So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

          by khereva on Fri Jan 11, 2008 at 05:45:33 AM PDT

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