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and then push back with contempt dharges every time they try to stall or hide behind bogus national security claims. I imagine that now that oil is selling for around $100/barrel more of the public would like to know about that secret energy panel and what was discussed regarding dividing up Iraqi oil fields. There's so much else to discover and this is the only way to force their hand. Thenks congressman Wexler and thanks for the diary Ralph.
by JohnB47 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 07:50:52 PM PDT
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How do you know a Republican is lying? Ask one: If the Republicans can lower gas prices for 60 days before an election, why won't they do it all the time?
by ca democrat on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 08:37:43 PM PDT
The ones that McCain has been hiding relating to Abramoff and the WH. That would be interresting too.
by JohnB47 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 08:42:10 PM PDT
Jesus. I'm a huge proponent of impeaching this bunch of criminals. But this speech actually took place--after this GIANT petition drive--with little audience, a half-hour after everyone else leaves? Late at night? And there's little audience but that smiling Nancy?
This is not--I repeat NOT--a dis of the diarist or what Wexler is trying to do. We all know impeachment is appropriate. But dammit, something doesn't feel right here.
My memory is fuzzy that far back, but I seem to remember the call for Nixon's impeachment being done during a more accessible hour (if not a packed gallery), but someone, please, correct me if I'm wrong.
As much as I want this, and as much as I know everyone else wants this, I still smell a rat. Before I do a cynic flame-out, though, lemme hie my geek-ass over to C-Span/YouTube, to see what I can find/post. Maybe actually seeing this will change my mind or something...
On second thought , let's not go to Camelot. 'Tis a silly place
by o the umanity on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:20:47 PM PDT
Or is this Nancy's way of showing how seriously she doesn't take the impeachment bill? I agree, this is Nancy's F-U directed at Wexler.
by Oxy Moron on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:47:31 PM PDT
by victoria2dc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:19:27 PM PDT
The chamber was nearly empty, although a half hour before Wexler's speech it was full of glad-handing, back-slapping congressmen. I know because I was in the Gallery of the House of Representatives at this historic moment.
and
Then they all seemed to disappear ... into a room in back with what looked like the glow of a warm, giant fireplace where I personally bet a lot of drinking was going on.
by Oxy Moron on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 11:18:07 PM PDT
I didn't notice that everyone left. Did you watch the cspan coverage? Did you hear the people in the gallery applauding and being told to stop? I guess you didn't hear athe same thing I heard. Rat? What are you talking about?
by victoria2dc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:18:58 PM PDT
the diary text, myself, as I did not see this on C-Span (and I am still trying to get to the link below @politico, and am having the same issue as others have noted):
The chamber was nearly empty, although a half hour before Wexler's speech it was full of glad-handing, back-slapping congressmen.
So...were there a lot of people there for this speech? And what happens next?
by o the umanity on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:53:58 PM PDT
reps and senators were actually there to hear it?
I have a news flash for them--ducking out on the speech ain't gonna make this issue go away.
by o the umanity on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 11:03:35 PM PDT
Oh, but you are so wrong. Their ducking the issue does make it go away since they're the ones responsible for carrying out the necessary actions.
It won't go away for you or me, but its potential realization vanishes when our so-called reps duck into their cozy lair.
message to the future
by CharlieHipHop on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 06:17:43 AM PDT
that it's up to us if it goes away or not, and my intention is to call, call, call, call, and call some more until Chairman Conyers holds hearings.
Some creative person can do a little project and create a multimedia DVD and we can take it to the offices and deliver it.
Did you watch the video? Congressman Wexler said he intends to publish our names (hope you signed the petition),a few thousand a day, "...for months and months."
Congressman Wexler and his three colleagues on the House Judiciary Committee are not forgetting.
Why don't you join us in ACTION? Today is National Call in Day. People throughout the country will be calling their representatives to join this important and timely effort. United for Peace and Justice urges you to be part of this day:
Visit this URL to look up your representative's local office numbers --
http://capwiz.com/... -- and/or call the Capitol Hill Switchboard at 202-224-3121. The operator can tell you who your representative is if you don't know, and connect you to his or her office.
Ask your representative to urge Rep. Conyers, Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, to begin impeachment hearings against Dick Cheney.
Call the House Judiciary Committee and don’t forget to call the Speaker, Nancy Pelosi:
Pelosi: (202) 225-0100 & Pelosi e-mail: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
Democratic Members of the Judiciary Committee
You can also send an email to your representative:
http://www.democrats.com/...
Once you've made your phone call and sent your email, please urge everyone you know to do the same.
by victoria2dc on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 08:17:35 AM PDT
just what the spineless are counting on. damn them all!
by gooddog on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 09:59:54 AM PDT
If there isn't a rat than at the very least Wexler needs a far far better PR/media team. I mean, come on!
by marchtoimpeach on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 11:51:21 PM PDT
The only rat(s) in this story is Dick Cheney. That's why we're asking Chairman Conyers to open hearings!
by victoria2dc on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 08:18:55 AM PDT
Maybe that's a portent.
by Timbuk the Second on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 08:36:52 AM PDT
I'm thinking that members of the House had to wait until after all voting was done on scheduled legislation for the day before making their individual cases for future business. It is too bad that it couldn't have happened earlier in the day, and that members of the House left right after all the voting was finished.
But then it's too bad impeachment didn't happen earlier in this millenium, and that members of the House have their priorities so screwed up.
I'm willing to give Wexler a chance - today was just his statement to the House and the country on the business he intends to address in his committee.
by feline on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:13:31 AM PDT
When people and Congress called for the Nixon impeachment, it was reported in Lamestream Media. Back in those days media actually reported news. Some were even responsible for public information - I watched the entire Iran-Contra hearings in primetime afternoon hours in the mid-80s; soap operas were pre-empted. Nowadays Lamestream Media is in the business of infotainment... and if they don't talk about any "controversial" topics - like impeachment - the sin of omission means no one will talk about it, and few will realize there are others "out there" who are just as anxious to proceed with impeachment as we are.
The Sins of Omission on the part of Lamestream Media teleprompter readers and the endless drivel talked about by political bobbleheads directs the attention of sheeple away from anything remotely "controversial" like the lies and war crimes of Dickie and Georgie, like protest marches against their illegal war and torture, like calls for impeachment. The fact that polls have shown that over 70% of us KNOW impeachable offenses have been committed is totally overlooked in favor of staged "controversies" the bobbleheads and teleprompter readers (aka 'news' ancors) talk about as "important." Multitasking is out of their realm of ability. Lots of business got done while people were talking about impeachment during the Nixon years and while Clinton was being impeached.
To say there are 'more important' things for Congress to do is disingenuous and a blatant lie; nothing is more important than our Constitution!
Oh, and I share your concerns for reasons previously stated in other Wexler diaries over the last few weeks. I think that's because before election day '06 my Dem Rep signed on to Conyers' impeachment of Bush, I voted for my Rep again - he's been in office for years - and by Feb. '07 he'd suddenly changed his mind about impeachment, they 'had more important things to do,' 'feared Republican backlash,' and Conyers had tabled his impeachment papers of Georgie. I feel like I was snookered into voting for my Rep again, and I feel like a chump for having forgiven his other dumbass votes 'cuz he'd signed on as a co-sponsor to impeach Georgie, so that's why I voted for him. He recently voted for H. Res. 847, so now I'm wondering if he's losing his mind, too, and I think he should retire at the end of this current term.
We've been snookered before by being terribly supportive of Congress Critters only to have them turn around and capitulate on important legislation; it's become an irritating habit since the SCOTUS decision of 2000. Some have even sent them lots of money (I don't do that; they don't deserve money until AFTER they do their jobs, and right now they're not even earning their salaries, so I refuse to send extra money).
(¯`*._(¯`*._(-IMPEACH-)_.*´¯)_.*´¯)
by NonnyO on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:10:21 AM PDT
After normal business has gaveled out, anyone who has requested time can get up and say anything. No real votes or motions can be entertained during this free speech time.
I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers
by geez53 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:24:51 AM PDT
I understand the Republicans bugging out, but the democrats?? Does Cheney have something on Pelosi and Reid that we don't know about? Or is it simply a Neville Chamberlin attempt not to rock the boat duing the primaries? I'm beginning to think that maybe Ralph Nader was right in his observation that there is little difference between the two parties.
No being has inherent power, only the illusion of power granted by others who similarly have none.
by Mark701 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 06:27:16 AM PDT
I don't know how to do that... I've sent the information about dengre's work and links to the diaries to Melanie Sloan at CREW several times... not even a response.
I talked to dengre and he said they know him because he's worked with him before.
Go figure.
I've also sent messages and made calls to Harry Reid's office. No response
I've also contacted the Democratic Indian Affairs Committe Chairman, Senator Byron Dorgan. I sent him the information, the request at least five times. Again, no response.
Are you willing to follow-up on this? Any connections to tradtional media? Rawstory might do some investigating... Keith O? Can you do any of that type of follow-up? If yes, please contact me at my profile e-mail and we'll figure it out.
by victoria2dc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:16:35 PM PDT
by victoria2dc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:12:16 PM PDT
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, is National Call-In Day
Congressman Robert Wexler is organizing his colleagues to ask House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers to begin Cheney impeachment hearings. Wexler is asking his fellow Judiciary Committee Members to co-sign a letter to Conyers. We support Wexler in this, and we are also asking congress members not on the committee to send their own letters to Conyers. Please Email your Congress Member here: http://www.democrats.com/...
Then please call the Capitol Hill Switchboard: (202) 224-3121. They can tell you who your Congress Member is if you don't know, and they can connect you to their office. Ask your representative to urge Chairman Conyers to begin impeachment hearings against Dick Cheney. This is especially important if your representative is a member of the Judiciary Committee. Once you've sent your Email and made your phone call, please urge everyone you know to do the same. If you have further time to help advance impeachment, please call and Email the media.
by conchita on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 09:38:31 PM PDT
There are others. This one sends letters to your Congresscritters, as determined based on your home address. Cheney Impeachment Hearings Now!
Impeachment is a duty, not an option that can be taken off the table.
by bushondrugs on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:07:44 PM PDT
I'm so happy to see your enthusiasm for impeachment and Congressman Wexler's speech on the floor tonight! Was it full of energy? Yes. Was it an indication that he is going to win this battle for a hearing? Yes. Based upon what I heard, the Speaker and Congressman Conyers can no longer avoid the call for IMMEDIATE hearings on the impeachment of Dick Cheney. Did his speech make you want to do more to help? Yes. I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
I'm sad that my country has become what it is. I will not bother to mention everything that makes me sad because you already know. It probably makes you sad too, or does it make you angry? At this point, I don't care because either way (sad or angry) we have the power to support Congressman Wexler, who was given the responsibility to speak for us by the people in his congressional district.
I'm proud to have him speak for me. I hope you will join me in calling his office tomorrow and leave the following message:
I pledge to call, e-mail or fax and fax, e-mail or call members of the Judiciary Committee on both sides of the aisle.
Here's the number of his DC office:
Washington, D.C. Office 2241 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 phone: (202) 225-3001 fax: (202) 225-5974
Go for it! Let's let him hear our words of appreciation tomorrow.
by victoria2dc on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 10:11:34 PM PDT
for waiting until we're well into the election cycle to begin what you should have done when the dems took back the house in '06.
i see this as nothing more than another slick attempt to rile the base before elections. there will be no impeachment, no trial, no convictioins.
by robertlewiws on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 08:11:43 AM PDT
I applaud Wexler for standing up at all. Remember Anthrax? The threat is real. It takes guts these days to speak out. Those guys in our White House are killers. And we all know it. They'll stop at nothing. Challenging them is frightening stuff. It takes a lot of courage. BRAVO WEXLER!
Gahzette ~ "At all costs, let's laugh!"
by Panda on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:14:21 AM PDT
wide narrow
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