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I love it.
"The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 09:25:23 AM PDT
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When they denied Timmy and Brian the food fight they were so obviously trolling for. I hope their supporters were paying attention.
"There are no happy endings in the Bush Administration". - Randall L. Tobias
by MadRuth on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 09:28:04 AM PDT
despite the good performance.... try this on for size
How about good ol' fashioned hypocracy
Remember those sovereign wealth funds that Hillary talked about cracking down on last night? Yes, the firm of which her Mark Penn is worldwide CEO represents the Abu Dhabi fund that bought a 5% stake in CitiGroup this fall.
Remember those sovereign wealth funds that Hillary talked about cracking down on last night?
Yes, the firm of which her Mark Penn is worldwide CEO represents the Abu Dhabi fund that bought a 5% stake in CitiGroup this fall.
by Steven R on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:27:35 AM PDT
She wasn't advising to eliminate them...Penn's investments are not hers he's just a campaign staffer...in the small world if international firms this is neither surprising nor threatening nor doubletalk...
HR 676 is the best health reform proposal worth my vote.
by kck on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:38:56 AM PDT
or at least this rather obnoxious (and tone deaf) commenter doesn't claim he has. Instead, he says that a firm Penn heads -- a public relations firm -- has among its client a company that participated in the Citigroup bailout.
The same commenter, no doubt, would cry foul if you attempted to link his candidate by association with any number of less-than-ideal individuals through two or three levels of disconnect.
John McCain, you are _not_ my friend.
by LarryInNYC on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:43:16 PM PDT
supporter. When you are the first to make an hyperpartisan comment in a beautiful diary and with an Obama tagline, I am left cold.
I'm sure you're a great person, however I'd like to see all partisans reign in their folks when they behave inappropriately.
by pamelabrown on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:41:39 AM PDT
some people were dishonest in last nights debate. others were not. i think that's relevant.
by Steven R on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:45:16 AM PDT
Who the fuck peed in your cornflakes?
"Cynicism is a sorry wisdom." - Barack Obama
by BlueGenes on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:48:55 AM PDT
and the rabid hillary supporters who claimed she rocked even though she was caught in doublespeak on Bob Johnson and hypocracy on these Wealth Funds.
by Steven R on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:54:19 AM PDT
You have a lot to say and I agree with much. I'm saying is we all need to take a deep breath and not dial up the hate. In short, this is not the diary for any partisan to drop his/her bomb.
by pamelabrown on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:24:14 AM PDT
And I have to agree with you PB. It's not a bad idea for all of us to dial it down a bit. Now, there wasn't all that much to learn from Ronald Reagan, except this bit of homespun wisdom: "Extend trust, but make sure to cut the cards!" I think that applies here. And there's still a campaign to win, so I won't join in on the lovefest, but less overt hostility all around is not a bad thing at all.
"We the People of the United States..." -U.S.Constitution
by elwior on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:02:32 PM PDT
to tear someone else down to build Obama up. Putting someone on the defensive will never convince anyone to vote your way.
There has to be an invisible sun / That gives us hope when the whole day's done -Police
by rightiswrong on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:42:19 PM PDT
under construction
by dogheaven on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:11:05 PM PDT
the rovesque style campaign. It sickens me.
Confucius say: Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.
by bluecayuga on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 05:42:43 PM PDT
I think someone over there realized that it was doing the candidate more harm than good.
by elwior on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 05:56:15 PM PDT
On Being A John Edwards Democrat
by Redstateresident on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:57:00 PM PDT
Instead of honoring the tone and theme of this diary, "our candidates are all great, let's all rejoice in that and stop sniping at each other" you had to stoop to the lowest level.
Do you feel proud of yourself? Does it make you feel powerful and strong to attack in such an inappropriate manner? Are you the kind of person that likes to sit in a formal restaurant and fart loudly because "no one can tell ME what to do!"?
I'm sure you won't hear what I'm trying to say here, but let me try anyway: this vindictive little post didn't make you look good and it won't convince anyone not to vote for Clinton. All it did was make you look like a small, petty man.
Frugal Fridays, where the cheap come to chat.
by sarahnity on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 10:46:30 AM PDT
Don't you get tired of being pissed?
If you don't agree with the poster, that you wouldn't vote for Hillary if she's our nominee: Say it!
by neoeconomist on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:20:25 AM PDT
by DMiller on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:21:56 AM PDT
Speak softly and carry a big can of tuna.
by Cat Whisperer on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:44:42 AM PDT
but I also disagree with you being troll rated for it. So I gave you a rec even tho I would not have.
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by kevin22262 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:53:04 AM PDT
Good, old-fashioned spell-check?
by deminva on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:47:09 PM PDT
Abu Dhabi buying a percentage of Citigroup? You would prefer Citigroup to declare bankruptcy perhaps? The nation's largest bank? Or are you simply anti-Arab?
Oh, and it's hypocrisy, not "hypocracy".
by Anne Elk on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:51:11 PM PDT
Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.
by vets74 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:17:58 PM PDT
Still, bigotry is a little surprising on a Democratic website.
by Anne Elk on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 04:10:46 PM PDT
Killing the wrong country wasn't much for revenge.
by vets74 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 05:12:54 PM PDT
has a lot of our money from oil. Why not invest it back. ( This is assuming Citgroup pays taxes here.)
by dogheaven on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:15:08 PM PDT
... which she should do, for her own good. The worst mistake the Clintons ever made was to hire Dick "toesucker" Morris and his protege Mark Penn.
She's better than him, she should get rid of him. He'll only do her damage in the long run.
by Joe Buck on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:59:20 PM PDT
Best word she can use is "pathetic."
If she's not unloading on Bush, she's more tired than not.
by vets74 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:20:11 PM PDT
sp
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by SFOrange on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:31:52 PM PDT
Steven's comment was not false nor was it irrelevant.
Sure, it went against the "let's cheer each other spirit" of that diary, and I do approve of how those who made comments to his comment told him to "chill out".
I'll say the same thing.
When liberals saw 9-11, we wondered how we could make the country safe. When conservatives saw 9-11, they saw an investment opportunity.
by onanyes on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:43:45 PM PDT
with my finger over the right hand button. I chickened out. But your logic makes me feel better.
The longer people are in public life that requires huge amount of money to stay national these ties will exist.
So StevenR - I reject your point. I do think we need publicly funded campaigns. That empty out K street quick.
by dogheaven on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:08:14 PM PDT
No longer a Grand Party. Just an Old one.
by EeDan on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 05:40:32 PM PDT
I had a similar epiphany last night too. I've been going over all the candidates platforms and records and doing my ole' "Ben Franklin Chart" pros and cons and really looking at the problems we as a nation face and what the next President will face and there is one inescapable conclusion...
America is so screwed up that it will take the concerted efforts of all three, working together to get us out of the deep horse pucky we're in!
They all have very their strengths and weaknesses, but collectively they have some really fantastic and workable ideas that as a nation we need.
It is going to be decades before we can undo thirty years of class warfare and the extensive damage that Bush and Cheney have visited upon us.
I know it will sound bad, but in a way the recession and the sub-prime debacle have helped because the politics of the GOP... "the politics of diversion and distraction" as Paul Krugman dubbed it... don't work on the majority of the American public any more.
The problems and causes have never been more clearly identified in the minds of the majority of the American people as they are now.
It is going to take all of us to remain involved and engaged to effect the changes we need. The sleeper has awakened!
by Flint on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:04:05 AM PDT
I'd like to see a change in the debate format. Right now they are sort of "show cases" where they skim across all of the issues...
I'd love to see a series of debates where the candidates have a chance to present their plans on a single issue like the economy and health care and let them present it and defend it.
I'd really like to see the issues debated in greater depth.
by Flint on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:10:53 AM PDT
Include Dennis Kucinich. Hell, have him be the moderator at the next debate.
by h bridges on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:29:24 AM PDT
I'm an Edwards supporter... but he should have been there.
by Flint on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 11:33:18 AM PDT
They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.
by Limelite on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 04:51:51 PM PDT
I'd love to see them as Pres, VP, and Attorney General and I can live with any of the 3 names in any of the 3 slots.
Add Christopher Dodd as Majority leader, Joe Biden as Sec. of State, and Bill Richardson as Sec. for Dept. of Homeland Security.
For a real point of contrast, see this video clip of Huckabee explaining his South Carolina strategy to Joe Scarborough.
The age of journalism as the fourth estate has passed. We blog to survive.
by enough on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:17:13 PM PDT
an administration.
We should be so lucky
Republicans only care about republicans. Democrats care about the Republic.
by beaukitty on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:43:41 PM PDT
The world always loved him and we sure need someone working on trying to get back a few of our old friends.
by enough on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:58:49 PM PDT
Sorry. I missed my spot.
by enough on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:54:08 PM PDT
Where will he fit in?
by juca on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:19:06 PM PDT
And don't forget a new cabinet position for Al Gore.
by elial on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 01:49:41 PM PDT
Secretary, Dept of Energy unless you change the Dept. of Homeland Security into a Dept of World Security in the broadest sense of that term--let them prosecute major polluters as terrorists.
by enough on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 02:05:16 PM PDT
temperment IMHO and could be useful elsewhere. Gore would turn down a cabinet appointment I think.
by dogheaven on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:17:41 PM PDT
...he is leaps and bounds ahead of a Scalia or an Alito regarding temperament (i.e respect for the rule of law). It is true that he is more of a policy wonk...than a legal scholar. so you are probably right. However...it would tick off the Republicans so much that I think it would be worth doing.
For Al I was thinking of a new department of government created especially for him(Dept of World Security as noted above).
by elial on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 04:19:53 PM PDT
higher than what those rascally republs have done. We got the momentum and I bet there are a lot of good choices.
Bill would be wasted on that bench. Let his charisma fly over seas winning back friends and confidence. (Carefully not stepping on the Sec if State toes tho.)
by dogheaven on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 04:33:02 PM PDT
administration! P, VP, and AG.
by Anne Elk on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:05 PM PDT
We're just choosing a captain.
"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers
by wayward on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:58:38 PM PDT
wide narrow
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