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if it's true he has this gossip about her on his web site, then he's guilty of smearing. It's gossip, unless he saw it himself and collected names and vetted it. Too soon for that to be possible.
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by anna shane on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:04:24 PM PDT
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She clearly cannot control Bill - look at his outrageous behavior on the campaign trail.
Anyone with any political ambition or any sense of dignity would refuse a Hillary VP slot, because why be 3rd fiddle?
by Greuben on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:13:06 PM PDT
she's never been able to, but he's okay, he's got universal appeal. LIke Obama, only even more.
by anna shane on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:44:48 PM PDT
supporting this POS during impeachment. The Senate should have voted to remove his sorry ass. His replacement would have had much more honor, and a big leg up in 2000 as the sitting President.
by TLS66 on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 06:01:50 PM PDT
up-rated, of course.
by kidneystones on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 07:42:23 PM PDT
his resignation nothwthstanding, Reagan was another, and let's not forget the current Chimp (though he didn't actually win the first one). So, yes, POS. It's an assessment I'm pained to make, but I've given Bill a pass too many times.... Monica, the pardons, etc. Then he got cozy with the Bushes, and now, with his despicable behavior in the past weeks...ugggh.
by TLS66 on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:38:30 PM PDT
IF Hillary wins, it will take a highly compliant Clinton insider type to serve as VP and constantly have Bill sucking away the oxygen and second guessing decisions. I don't see Obama in this role and I am not conceding an Obama loss either. Incidentallly, Bill has disappointed me with his in your face, unprincipled behavior in this campaign. I've read some stuff...I am not delusional about Bill Clinton but he was still one of my favorite people. Now... not so much. He needs some humility.
by cas2 on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 06:55:56 PM PDT
an unclear reference in your comment:
"this gossip about her "
what gossip? did I miss something? Please clarify. Thanks.
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson
by penncove on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:40:33 PM PDT
is repeating what you heard not what you experienced yourself. It's hearsay and it's unworthy of his don't smear message. Seems that he jumped the gun on calling the NV delegates for him too, the party says no, the newspaper say no, say he's confused about the counting process. How embarrassing?
by anna shane on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:47:01 PM PDT
I still don't understand what, exactly, you're referring to about this "gossip". Is it about something Obama has on his site, or is it about something being slung around here on dKos?? Please illuminate.
As to the delegate count thing, I don't know if you're quite right. AP is carrying the story. Can you provide a link which confirms that the NV state party is throwing cold water on the Obama read of likely delegate assignments, which CNN, on their results site, has, as of 6.03 PM PST, flipped in Obama's direction.
by penncove on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 06:04:39 PM PDT
I don't have a link, but I'm sure there will soon be one posted. This will get sorted out I'm sure, I just think it's weird to be posting on it, like kos diary, as if it's a done deal when that is far from the case. The Sun says Obama doesn't understand the way delegates are selected. It seems like trashing her win, and she did win. some are talking about dirty tricks, not really getting the votes, all sorts of stuff that is unpleasant. But, I don't mean to be unpleasant, sorry. I hope kos write a retraction that gets as much interest as his obama really won one.
by anna shane on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 06:24:42 PM PDT
we're getting all exercised here about who gets 13, who gets 12 in a pretty close election....
meanwhile, in SC, according to CNN's latest projections, McCain, for 33% of primary votes (no caucus chaos here), gets 13 (projected) delegates, while Hucky, with 30%, gets 3....
In Nevada, again per CNN, Romney, with 51%, gets 18 delegates of 31 (or 58%)
once again, even in one of our messiest and most confusing settings, the Nevada caucus, we Dems are closer to proportional democracy than the GOP....
by penncove on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 07:12:47 PM PDT
camp's figures.
I didn't that look far down thread to see if anyone answered this so sorry if it's a repeat.
But as for the NV state chair who's been "throwing water" so to speak in response to Obama's claims it's in a lot of places. Here's one full quote.
"The calculations of national convention delegates being circulated are based upon an assumption that delegate preferences will remain the same between now and April 2008," said Jill Derby, the chairwoman of the state party. "We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."
Here's one link to Sun Article:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/...
by santh on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 07:15:12 PM PDT
wide narrow
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