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what I really needed was another BS diary identical to a half a dozen other BS diaries about how Obama is a Republican.
Ya'all are really stretching. Pathetic really.
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:16:10 PM PDT
before this diary was posted.
I was surprised it wasn't posted earlier, frankly.
We are a party of innovation...We are willing to suffer the discomfort of change in order to achieve a better future. -- Barbara Jordan
by wmtriallawyer on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:16:54 PM PDT
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this diary so many times today, and each time I (and you and so many others) point out why it is bunk some other Edwards fanatic reposts it.
It is like they think that if they keep saying something over and over and over again it will be true. Maybe we should name it Bushitis.
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:19:11 PM PDT
Have a great day, and good luck to your candidate tomorrow. Good luck to all of our Democratic candidates.
Susan (my cat)
by SusanHu on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:17:08 PM PDT
I'm not a Democrat, and neither is he? Huh. Who knew? Guess I'd better go to the other voting table on primary day.
Northern Illinois University: Kate's and Matt's parents meet, 1976
by chicago minx on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:19:47 PM PDT
been opposed to war. Writing this type of garbage about the only frontrunner who didn't vote for it. I am so freaking stunned by the Obama smearing. Where did the progressives go and why have freepers taken their place?
by GN1927 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:49:44 PM PDT
"this is supposed to be someone who has always been opposed to the war." Meaning Susan, who I can't believe has reduced her excellent writing to this trash.
by GN1927 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:53:37 PM PDT
If you favor letting Republicans choose the Democratic nominee, you just might not be a Democrat.
by BoringDem on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:03:06 PM PDT
And that is more a comment on you than it is on others.
by Bob Johnson on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:10:29 PM PDT
Turn Left. He makes a pretty good case for the possibility that a strong Indy/R turnout to the caucus favors Obama...a weak Indy/R turnout favors Hillary.
It's all a crapshoot, of course. Nobody knows nothin' til tomorrow night...and even then...lotsa fun food fights about 'what it all means.'
Do you think Denzel Washington will play Obama in the movie?
Tell me how you spend your time and how you spend your money -- I'll tell you what your values are.
by oldpro on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 03:03:41 PM PDT
this were a Democratic primary. The numbers speak for themselves.
by BoringDem on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 01:36:50 PM PDT
What a truly sad person you have become.
by Bob Johnson on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:02:52 PM PDT
like george will. and ben smith. and broder.
now at the left coaster and docudharma
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:20:10 PM PDT
Join the College Kossacks on Facebook. Hat Thief
by DemocraticLuntz on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:21:40 PM PDT
support from good democrats. what's interesting is that one seems to be the favorite of right wingers.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:26:13 PM PDT
look at the losers running for the gop.
republicans like to back a winner.
"Stop the drama. Vote Obama!"
by Number5 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:35:23 PM PDT
that must be it. they're very concerned, right?
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:39:03 PM PDT
someone is going to out-concern you?
by Daaaaave on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:43:36 PM PDT
i'm very worried that will and smith and broder care more about the democratic party. that must be it!
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:52:45 PM PDT
They just want to back the winner.
Then they get to say how disappointed they are with his governance.
but backing the winner is instinctual to amoral republicans.
Obama is a winner.
Our winner.
by Number5 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:48:34 PM PDT
their winner. nah. they care.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:52:10 PM PDT
praised be dah lahd!
They misunderstood us all those years.
"It's a race to decide who the British goverment will follow blindly for the next 4 years" Kennedy/Kerry '08
by Salo on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:29:29 PM PDT
Edwards was so involved with the DLC
http://www.dlc.org/...
DLC Update | March 13, 2000 New Dems Organize in Senate Though U.S. Senators have always played a key role in the DLC and the New Democrat movement, we're pleased to see that nine senators have taken the formal step of organizing a New Democrat Coalition to work with the existing 64-member NDC in the House. The founding members of the Senate NDC include: Joe Lieberman (CT), Evan Bayh (IN), Mary Laundrieu (LA), John Edwards (NC), John Breaux (LA), Chuck Robb (VA), Blanche Lambert Lincoln (AR), Bob Kerrey (NE) and Bob Graham (FL).
DLC Update | March 13, 2000 New Dems Organize in Senate
Though U.S. Senators have always played a key role in the DLC and the New Democrat movement, we're pleased to see that nine senators have taken the formal step of organizing a New Democrat Coalition to work with the existing 64-member NDC in the House. The founding members of the Senate NDC include: Joe Lieberman (CT), Evan Bayh (IN), Mary Laundrieu (LA), John Edwards (NC), John Breaux (LA), Chuck Robb (VA), Blanche Lambert Lincoln (AR), Bob Kerrey (NE) and Bob Graham (FL).
Look at that, Edwards and bossum budy Joe Lieberman, helping sell out the Democratic party.
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:27:42 PM PDT
you don't want to go there.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:29:16 PM PDT
Okay turk, everyone who is running for President on the Democratic side who said anything supported Lieberman during the primary than switched to support Lamont after the primary.
Obama was assigned Lieberman as a mentor when he won his senate seet.
Edwards chose to work with Lieberman to form a new part of the DLC. That is right, the DLC.
Suck it up. Your Edwards is not the man you think he is.
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:41:39 PM PDT
and whatever mistakes edwards made in 2000, he worked to help lamont in 2006:
http://newhavenindependent.org/...
did obama?
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:44:17 PM PDT
a quick google search gives us this:
http://www.cbsnews.com/...
AP) Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, a vocal defender of Sen. Joe Lieberman earlier this year, is urging Connecticut voters to rally behind his rival, Ned Lamont. The Illinois senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate sent an e-mail message Thursday praising Lamont. "Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grass-roots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election," Obama wrote. "Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign." The Lamont campaign said Obama's e-mail went to about 5,000 Connecticut residents. Lamont aides said they welcomed the support of Obama, who has enjoyed a surge in popularity in recent weeks as speculation about his national ambitions mounts. Obama has also given $5,000 to Lamont's campaign through a political committee. "Ned Lamont and I share a commitment to bringing our troops home safely from Iraq, to achieving energy independence, to helping all our citizens realize the American dream, and to empowering the American people to reclaim their government," Obama wrote.
AP) Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, a vocal defender of Sen. Joe Lieberman earlier this year, is urging Connecticut voters to rally behind his rival, Ned Lamont.
The Illinois senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate sent an e-mail message Thursday praising Lamont.
"Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grass-roots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election," Obama wrote. "Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign."
The Lamont campaign said Obama's e-mail went to about 5,000 Connecticut residents.
Lamont aides said they welcomed the support of Obama, who has enjoyed a surge in popularity in recent weeks as speculation about his national ambitions mounts. Obama has also given $5,000 to Lamont's campaign through a political committee.
"Ned Lamont and I share a commitment to bringing our troops home safely from Iraq, to achieving energy independence, to helping all our citizens realize the American dream, and to empowering the American people to reclaim their government," Obama wrote.
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:47:51 PM PDT
he sent an email. edwards went and worked for lamont, but obama sent an email. bold leadership, once again.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:51:23 PM PDT
I have the distinction of being called a media whore by Courtney Love. -Maynard J. Keenan
by arielle on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:58:04 PM PDT
he managed to make it to connecticut to support lieberman.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:16:49 PM PDT
supports Obama, what does that tell you?
by nisleib on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:03:41 PM PDT
makes strange bedfellows.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:17:09 PM PDT
http://blog.thehill.com/...
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:02:23 PM PDT
all over the country. I never pegged you as one of the people who believed that Lamont's campaign was the only important campaign in '06. I thought that kind of idiocy was reserved for FDL.
My candidate voted to ban the use of cluster bombs on kids. Did yours?
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 04:48:06 PM PDT
did i? i wasn't the one who brought up lieberman, either, was i?
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 04:59:55 PM PDT
Why make it if you don't believe it?
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:05:01 PM PDT
from 2000, i think it's more relevant to point out obama's efforts to get lieberman re-elected, and then his weak effort for lamont. edwards campaigned for lamont. so did dodd:
http://www.flickr.com/...
so, if someone wants to play the lieberman card, obama loses.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:07:12 PM PDT
Webb, Tester, McCaskill, and Klobuchar (among others) and countless house candidates. He also donated the max to Lamont and did fundraising for him.
I guess Lamont's race was more important than regaining control of Congress. Good to know.
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:14:23 PM PDT
i'm not the one who brought lieberman into the conversation, but when an obama fan does, i'm going to point out the obama made more effort for leiberman than for lamont. he campaigned for others, but not for lamont. i know i know- he's a busy man. allocation of time and all. couldn't even manage to speak out against kyl-lieberman, much less vote against it, but has plenty of time to rail against people who supported it- now, after the fact. yes, always the bold leader.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:19:04 PM PDT
is better than not voting.
Good to know.
I'm loving this lesson in logic. What's next? Dodd and Clinton are better leaders than Obama because they vote before he does on alphabetical roll call votes? Maybe Dodd shouldn't lead so often. I wish he wouldn't have lead on engaging in rightwing voter suppression tactics tactics in Iowa.
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:36:39 PM PDT
but on kyl-lieberman, it's about leadership. brave brave brave obama seems to think it was a really big deal, now, yet didn't even bother speaking out against it, before. sort of makes me wonder if he'd have really had the guts to buck the tide on the iaumf, had he actually been in the position of having to vote on it. i'm still waiting to see him take a bold stand on anything. other than throwing gays under the bus, to pander to the bigots in south carolina, that is.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:42:07 PM PDT
His wife said it on NPR's All Things Considered as recently as 12/20.
Dodd was my second choice unstill he decided to adopt the tactics of Ken Blackwell.
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:44:00 PM PDT
i have no idea about his wife, but he's been silent.
by Turkana on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 05:46:24 PM PDT
by clonecone on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 04:46:39 PM PDT
by Salo on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 01:22:49 PM PDT
I'm enjoying seeing all the Obama detractors jumping all over themselves to use the "Harry and Louise" bogus talking point...
What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:31:18 PM PDT
considering about %5 even knew what it meant.
lol
by Number5 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 12:36:56 PM PDT
wide narrow
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