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What does it say about the Clintons that Bill was basically silent for the last seven years--while we rushed into an immoral war, while our Constitution was being shredded, while the Justice Department was politicized, while torture was legalized--and only found his voice again for the purpose of impugning the most promising, charismatic Democratic candidate in a generation? Just because that candidate had the unmitigated gall to run against his wife and the Clintons' perception of inevitability?
Where was his voice--his leadership--when we needed it? And what does it say about the Clintons' priorities--country, party, candidate--now?
by ReEnergizer on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 06:56:46 PM PDT
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Apparently just making speeches against the war isn't good enough, it doesn't count. Only votes against the war count. At least that's what the Clintons tell me about Obama in 2003.
Oh, wait. Too bad Hillary didn't vote against it. Move along, nothing to see here.
"Not just with words, but with deeds." -- Barack Obama
by kath25 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:04:45 PM PDT
didn't work too well for that Gore fella, either.
Oh, wait. He had a PowerPoint presentation to go with his speeches. That's the difference.
by ReEnergizer on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:16:33 PM PDT
by maxnyc on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:18:09 PM PDT
was merely war or torture or stealing elections or whatever.
Only when something really important came along would he spend the enormous capital of being an ex-president.
And then its three a days to church basement size crowds and being HRC's hit man.
Last November, HRC was Inevitably the nominee. So clearly she didn't lose because of pre-judgment or sexism. She lost in the campaign.
by Inland on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:06:49 PM PDT
Won't risk tarnishing his legacy for a righteous cause, but when it comes to moving back into the White House he's a real tiger. I've been waiting years for him to speak out, the thing that made him finally do it says a lot about his character.
The weak in courage is strong in cunning-William Blake
by beltane on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:12:41 PM PDT
guilt combined with megalomania. He feels he owes it to Hillary because he humiliated her on the world stage with the Lewinsky scandal. He also feels that it is within his power to deliver the presidency to her.
Hey, I took Psych 101.
Actually, I didn't but what the heck.
by LisainNYC on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:39:26 PM PDT
a little bit too much, methinks.
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by lirtydies on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:04:51 PM PDT
"I supported the President when he asked the Congress for authority to stand up against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
Bill Clinton, 5-18-03
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by Adam B on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:07:44 PM PDT
A word after a word after a word is power. -- Margaret Atwood
by tmo on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:44:51 PM PDT
... like the Clinton Foundation's website?
by Adam B on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:19:49 PM PDT
by LisainNYC on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:40:07 PM PDT
What's the matter with Hillary?
by chicago jeff on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 09:13:25 PM PDT
by lirtydies on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 10:27:39 PM PDT
He's always been aware of what the truth is. He just doesn't like being tethered to it.
by Adam B on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 05:08:39 AM PDT
2008: The year the intelligent half of the country takes over.
by Castine on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:17:58 PM PDT
always has been - we just didn't know because it was not exposed for us to see . . .
by alba on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:19:51 PM PDT
one of the rules of being part of the most exclusive club in the world (ex-presidents), that says you don't criticize Presidents that follow you.
Only Carter has had the guts to break that idiotic rule if my memory serves me correctly.
I don't mind straight people as long as they act gay in public.
by internationaljock on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:21:16 PM PDT
That he kept a relatively low profile after leaving office didn't bother me too much--I understood the general principal at hand to let one's successors (in the WH and in one's own party) take charge and have center stage.
However, when Bush finally got so out-of-hand that Carter felt it was necessary to speak up, I wish Clinton had done so also.
Clinton's passivity included not reacting to the blame being laid on the Clinton Administration by right wingers for the 9/11 attacks--except for his rebuke of Chris Wallace's attempt to carry the water for those critics.
In this context, what does upset me was Clinton's recent assertions that he was opposed to the war early on. Very disappointing; that assertion serious hurt his credibility for me.
We're in a culture that increasingly holds that science is just another belief. - Alan Alda
by sawgrass727 on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:56:02 PM PDT
though he asked that the interview not be published until after his death since it was so critical of Bush's entry into Iraq. I'm not sure if this "counts" or not.
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by blzabub8 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 05:06:53 AM PDT
Right on !
And isn't it amazing to realize that President Clinton was still president during that fiasco in Florida in 2000 - and to anyone's knowledge did he say a single word about it at the time - or since ?
7 yrs of lies and mismanagement, death and destruction, negligence and nefariousness by the Bush Administration and the best Bill Clinton can do is hang out with Dubya's daddy and make nice with the Bush Clan ?
The abysmal response to Katrina, the lies told to start a war with Iraq, the outing of an undercover CIA agent, torture, fearmongering - and the list goes on - and Bill never got red-faced once.
He only gets red-faced when an electrifying Senator has the audacity to run for the office that his wife was supposed to have been coronated into by now.
Ridiculous, really.
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by RobertInWisconsin on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 08:31:43 PM PDT
by fhcec on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:48:23 AM PDT
wide narrow
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