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It's a local paper that people...you know...read.
"The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg
by grannyhelen on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 10:08:00 AM PDT
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As a resident of the Central Valley I was quite surprised (and pleased) this morning when I opened the paper and saw the endorsement for Edwards.
Fresno is a notoriously "conservative" area and the Bee's editorials often reflect this.
All I know is that my in-laws must have been choking on their oatmeal this morning when they opened to the Editorial page.
I don't understand it, but the vitriol reserved for Edwards is even greater than that directed at the Clintons. Whoo-boy don't get me started there!
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by fresburger on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 10:16:58 AM PDT
He challenges their way of life. The "haves" have been pampered for quite some time now and they've grown accustomed to it. Think about how they've accused liberals for the past 3 decades of having an "entitlement" attitude. This is how THEY have become. They believe they are entitled to low capital gains rates, negligible corporate taxes, big business - government sweetheart deals, and cheap plentiful labor.
John Edwards threatens to take away some of their toys, and they're ready to throw a tantrum at the mention of his name. Makes perfect sense, just watch 3 year olds at play and you know all you need to know about Republican philosophy - "MINE!"
John McCain: He's not just crazy ... He's BATSHIT CRAZY!
by kbman on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 11:14:27 AM PDT
Clinton and Obama should conceed right now, because with a powerhouse like the Fresno Bee backing Edwards, endorsements from Wes Clark and Oprah Winfree are worthless.
This is going to turn around everything. It's all going according to Edwards' Plan.
"I'm bad at being subtle, but I ain't that tough." -Joan Jett
by foxfire burns on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:08:22 PM PDT
Is that you?
Yes, unfortunately Edwards is not that great a threat to the establishment candidates. That doesn't mean that you have to be an asshole about it. Your sig line, for example, is garbage. Grow up.
And btw, its "concede", not "conceed". (The little dotted red line should give you a clue that maybe your alternative spelling isn't up to snuff.)
by kbman on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:15:06 PM PDT
Are you 'shrooming?
by foxfire burns on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:19:18 PM PDT
Any system I've used for DKos posting displays a dotted red underline of misspelled or unrecognized words. It may be related to browser settings I guess.
by kbman on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:24:06 PM PDT
...with a dotted red underline.
Firefox...pretty ironic given your moniker.
A simple explanation. No need to harass anyone, is there?
We're in a culture that increasingly holds that science is just another belief. - Alan Alda
by sawgrass727 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:27:08 PM PDT
I only use IE under duress.
by kbman on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:53:23 PM PDT
you, sir or madam as the case may be, are a cad and a most annoying voice on the "tubes".
by stratocasterman on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:43:57 PM PDT
Butte and Glenn Counties - a "notoriously "conservative" area..." , but boy would I welcome an endorsement for John Edwards from our little rag, the "Chico Enterprise Record".
The endorsement from the Bee reflects Edwards smart, in depth policy ideas for farm and rural areas.
Oh sure, many will laugh at Fresno, after all, all they do there is grow your food.
I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason. -Klaatu
by Guadalupe59 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:34:21 PM PDT
People in, well... Fresno.
by Drummond on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:47:29 PM PDT
This is a McClatchy newspaper. The chain is isn't what it once was, but its one of the last bastions of good local newspaper coverage. Their Washington bureau has done some of the only honest and comprehensive reportage on the Iraq war.
You may be able to piss on the Bees on sites where people don't follow journalism but doing it here is like pissing into the wind.
"It's time for us to get serious and protect the companies that protect us," -- Mitch McConnell on the Protect AT&T act
by PBCliberal on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:01:05 PM PDT
I won't piss on the bees any more.
by Drummond on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:12:03 PM PDT
We have a serious attrition in their population, whether that be allegorical for McClatchy journalists or descriptive of real Anthophila.
As a media historical aside, the McClatchy family also had a pretty serious electronic media empire in the Central Valley in the early to mid 20th century, including radio station KFBK, Sacramento, which is legendary for being the dark cave where Roger Ailes turned Rush Limbaugh from disk jockey to evil incarnate.
But they'd sold the station to Westinghouse by the time Ailes did his dastardly deed. Today, its just another prick in Clear Channel's iron maiden.
by PBCliberal on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:25:54 PM PDT
Estimated population of 481,035 from July 2006. The city of Fresno, estimated population of 1,002,284.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official... ~Theodore Roosevelt
by Pam from Calif on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:50:42 PM PDT
n/t
by Pam from Calif on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 09:58:05 PM PDT
wide narrow
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