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  •  As a very recently declared (11+ / 0-)

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    Clinton supporter (previously Edwards), I thank you for articulating so well my conclusion about the real source of Clinton-hate.  

    For months, I could not understand why so many seemingly progressive people spent their time repeating Republican themes from the "90s.  I finally realized that there are many people who have come of age hearing only aboput the fake "scandals".  They have no way of knowing that every singfle one in which Hillary was supposedly involved has been found to have no basis except fevered Republican imaginations.

    by seeker on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 12:33:45 PM PDT

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    •  I don't agree (0+ / 0-)

      Some of us out here in progressive land just aren't getting past AUMF and Kyl-Lieberman. That's everything to me.

      No doubt, Republicans and some independents dislike HRC for the reasons stated. But even some of this hate from the right is due to HRC trying to take on health care reform and other issues during the Clinton Presidency. Now right wingers hated Bill to be sure, but they  hated HRC more because she was unelected and she was involving herself in policy.  

      by JohnnyAppleseed on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 12:43:07 PM PDT

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    •  I think your statement is way too broad. (0+ / 0-)

      I defended the Clintons in WH, but I am pissed about NAFTA, media consolidation, welfare & not corporate reform, and many of the policies Bill personally worked to pass.  I also believe that Monica was a plant, and he was easy and stupid.  HE is why I don't want Hillary to be President.  If she would repudiate some of what he did, I would feel much better about her.  

      Since the choice is now Clinton, Obama, and John McCain, I find not a dimes worth of difference between them on many policies that I care about deeply.  

      I agree that the Clintons have been broiled, boiled, and skewered by the media.  However, I think "pimping" in this context needs to be defined as "promoting", the same way we "pimp" diaries on this site.  Since it is new vernacular, I think it was appropriate for it to be explained and any misconceptions apologized for - but .....

      If I had a choice between Hillary and Obama, I would still take Hillary over him anyday.

      Republicans don't have 60 votes, and it doesn't seem to bother them one bit.

      by dkmich on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 12:51:14 PM PDT

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    •  for me, it's the opposition to Dean and (1+ / 0-)

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      the 50 state strategy.  It's the DLC, "centrism" and consultants.  Oh, the consultants.

      by Tulip on Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 01:22:21 PM PDT

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