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This needs to be the mantra for today.
by VirginiaDem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:43:55 AM PDT
by bugscuffle on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:45:26 AM PDT
[ Parent ]
There was just a "smidge" of people, about four people voting in the Democratic primary and about two in the GOP primary. This was one polling place in Hanover County, Mechanicsville, Old Church Road.
It was late morning at around 9:45 am.
On Saturday, I attended the annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner-actually, I was up in the rafters holding an Obama sign and chanting, "Yes We Can!!!". The crowd was electric, rocked by former Gov. Mark Warner (who is now running for the Senate), former Gov. Doug Wilder, current Gov. Tim Kaine and numerous other Virginia Democratic office holders. Hillary spoke first and I do think she was excellent. Obama did not come on until about 10:30 pm but of course, he stole the show. The crowd was overwhelmingly in favor of Sen. Obama.
Let's hope this enthusiasm translates into votes for Obama. But if Hillary ultimately wins the nomination, I wil fight like heck for her. I will become a street fighter for her.
If Not Us, Who,..... If Not Now, When?
by VirginiaBlue on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:55:58 AM PDT
Though I did see a lot of interest from voters in Obama here in Montgomery County. But it will go to which candidate gets their voters out today.
I will add it is FREKING COLD out today. All volunteers out in the cold today should be commended!
by Sharon in MD on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:09:06 PM PDT
Just curious.
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by dansac on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:49:08 PM PDT
;-)
by rapcetera on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 06:26:32 PM PDT
Especially in this miserable weather.
by VirginiaBlue on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:01:15 PM PDT
comes to making Republicans eat crow. Obama, I believe, does not comprehend the magnitude of the battle ahead for us.
But I delivered 6 reluctant voters to Obama today just to help give Mark Penn a swift kick in the nuts.
Where the mind is without fear ... Where knowledge is free... Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake -- Rabindranath Tagore
by horatius on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:49:52 PM PDT
Shit, my hometown! Ain't never movin' back there. Too cold (I live in California now), and too racist (at least it was in the '70s and '80s). Nonetheless, I'm really curious to see how well he does there. Maybe the place has changed.
Son, you're makin' the same mistake with Iraq that I did with your mother. I didn't pull out in time.
by fou on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:12:46 PM PDT
much more populated...very white collar......
by Sharon in MD on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:53:29 PM PDT
From the Washington Post:
Area's Primary Voter Turnout Could Break Records By Miranda S. Spivack Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, February 12, 2008; 1:53 PM Elections officials throughout the region reported potentially record-breaking voter turnout today, and said despite the crowds, they are experiencing only minor problems with voting machines and electronic voter check-in systems. In Maryland, officials were projecting a 39 percent turnout, which would be one of the highest in recent years. The risk of bad weather later today could lower that, said deputy elections chief Ross Goldstein. In Virginia, Fairfax elections chief Margaret K. Luca said turnout was substantial, and voters were asking for Democratic ballots by a margin of 3 or 4 to 1. Virginia allows last-minute crossover voting, despite party affiliation, unlike Maryland or the District.
Area's Primary Voter Turnout Could Break Records By Miranda S. Spivack Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, February 12, 2008; 1:53 PM
Elections officials throughout the region reported potentially record-breaking voter turnout today, and said despite the crowds, they are experiencing only minor problems with voting machines and electronic voter check-in systems.
In Maryland, officials were projecting a 39 percent turnout, which would be one of the highest in recent years. The risk of bad weather later today could lower that, said deputy elections chief Ross Goldstein.
In Virginia, Fairfax elections chief Margaret K. Luca said turnout was substantial, and voters were asking for Democratic ballots by a margin of 3 or 4 to 1. Virginia allows last-minute crossover voting, despite party affiliation, unlike Maryland or the District.
by theologicus on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:13:02 PM PDT
by Texas Ram on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:45:57 AM PDT
by VirginiaDem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:47:10 AM PDT
tonight
by need pr on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:51:15 AM PDT
Even in the mountains they don't get 6 feet. Inches, perhaps?
by Tracker on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:09:00 AM PDT
5' 6" is political hype?
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by griz4u on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:14:50 AM PDT
of '78. I can remember piles of snow when I was a kid in ND that higher than my dad's head, but that was after plowing. I think it must be 6 inches. I guess that could be a big deal in VA.
There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious...that you've got to put your bodies on the gears...and make it stop. -- Mario Savio
by Boston Boomer on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:06:11 AM PDT
Tony's no longer in office.
They don't even re-label official bullshit now.
If Bill Clinton was the first black president... why can't Obama be the first female president? -- wry twinger, DKos, 5 May '08
by ogre on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:34:55 AM PDT
gasp!
I know, I know, sorry for the sarcasm, its a good mantra but really, he's gonna win big today, we just don't know how big.....
hence why we fight, fight, fight!
Josh around at Joshing Politics
by proudprogressiveCA on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:51:59 AM PDT
I went to my polling place to learn that turn out is very low, and when I saw several people during the course of my morning errands, they had forgotten that today was primary day. It was a real downer.
No matter what happens ... somebody will find a way to take it too seriously." Dave Barry
by Granny Doc on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:55:13 AM PDT
at some polls anyway. I hope yours is not representative of the overall polling.
I think this one could turn out to favor Hilary, just a gut feeling, perhaps I'm 'wary' as others have said remembering NH.
"People should not vote for any Republican, because they're dangerous, dishonest and self-serving"
by Wary on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:03:54 AM PDT
Harford County specifically and turnout has been steady all day. No huge lines, but it has been at full capacity at times. Lots of Obama love here though!
"All the world's a stage."
by veritas vos liberabit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:49:41 PM PDT
.....(my college roommate) sent a text message to me 30 minutes ago, saying that he had just voted for Obama, his first choice 4 months ago. Don't be too confident, but keep the faith.
by Hillbilly Dem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:08:39 AM PDT
I know of several officers in Iraq who have voted for Obama. One of them is my wife.
We all know now that Obama leads in campaign contributions from military members and their families. Ron Paul leads among the gop candidates.
We military families want OUT of Iraq. THIS military family wants OBAMA to get us home safely.
Obama08
by ToxicTidepool on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:49:31 PM PDT
to you and your family for their service. Hope your better half is safely home soon.
by OnStarboardTack on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:13:50 PM PDT
is calling and reminding people to vote. Hopefully what you saw was just the early turnout, and hopefully it will increase throughout the day. I wish I could make some GOTV calls to VA today, but I'm at work extra long today.
"The Power to change this party, and the power to change this country is in your hands, not mine." - Gov. Howard Dean, MD
by deaniac83 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:06:54 AM PDT
...reminding me to vote (already did.) None from Clinton. I think that speaks volumes about the organization of each campaign.
I'm in MD, on the Eastern Shore.
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by Spunkmeyer on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 02:13:11 PM PDT
I've heard that Obama will do better in Northern Virginia, and Hillary will do better elsewhere in Virginia. Do we know which parts of Virginia have high or low turnout yet?
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by Korkenzieher on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:22:13 AM PDT
It would be great if everyone were informed, but they're not if they don't even know the date of their primary.
Which means they're probably not up on the issues or candidates. Which means it might be best not to vote. A vote cast in ignorance is worse than no vote at all. Sometimes you have 62,040,000 votes cast in ignorance...
In a sense, the fewer votes are cast, the more votes of committed activists count. Which I believe is a good thing.
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by Cream Puff on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:24:38 AM PDT
at my polling place. It's already snowing here (VA). It seems we're at the point that if Obama wins, "it's no big deal, it was expected", but if Hillary wins, or doesn't lose by a lot, "it's an upset that will turn her campaign around". I'm just imagining tonight's headlines.
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by madgranny on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:25:40 AM PDT
to the Obama site and call Virginia voters and GOTV!
She started out with 120 million dollars, 200 Supers, 100% name recognition, a former President and Rupert Murdoch. Why can't Hillary close the deal?
by Blogvirgin on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:18:45 AM PDT
It's right next to her adopted home state of DC, where she is going to win huge. The spillover effect, along with the natural demographic advantages of lots of beltway bandit companies in NOVA mean that the inevitability is set to kick in right now. VA is in the bag for Hillary.
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by theran on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:02:41 AM PDT
Then you don't know jack about D.C. I know this is a "be pessimistic" thread, but seriously, the question is whether Obama tops 70% in D.C. Virginia is a much more complex state, and the weather is a big question mark right now. (Each individual snowflake in Virginia causes its own mini-panic). But even then, the "beltway bandit" companies you refer to have nothing whatsoever to do with the demographics of the state, and its insulting to their population, which have been at the forefront of Democratic resurgence, to suggest so.
by AccidentalWonk on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:13:46 AM PDT
How can it not be true? She's lived there for nearly 20 years. Obama is DOOOOOMED!!!!
by theran on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:16:47 AM PDT
...not at all a serious one. Right, theran?
Besides, Lyndon LaRouche will sweep D.C.
I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. -- Thomas Carlyle
by Jsn on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:23:29 AM PDT
by theran on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:31:49 AM PDT
by now, doesn't it?
:)
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by DrSpalding on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:37:30 AM PDT
The closest-in suburbs--Arlington, Fairfax, the Metro stops--may split pretty evenly between HRC and BHO. Further out it'll be HRC; then the blue fades to pink and red. Down by Lynchburg the ghost of Jerry Falwell screams that McCain isn't religious enough, and his followers give ear.
I grew up in D.C. so I know everything and am infallible.
by archer070 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:16:33 AM PDT
Hillary supporters are stupid. The AA population in DC will guarantee Obama a big win.
by kayfromsouth on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:06:32 AM PDT
Taking DC would pretty much be the political equivalent of the End of the World as We Know it.
No chance in hell. Not even close, in DC. Doubt it will close in Maryland, either. (I don't know about Virginia but it's got a split personality from what I hear ;)
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by shanikka on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:08:08 AM PDT
by Free Spirit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:08:35 AM PDT
We Changed The Course! Now we must hold their feet to the fire.
by hcc in VA on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:58:24 AM PDT
That was funny...
by JustinL on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:01:47 PM PDT
by Pegasus on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:02:56 AM PDT
by 125
Hillary isn't racist, she's Rovist.
by word player on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:13:54 AM PDT
It's a sad state of affairs when a stand up comedian does a better interview than a guy on a "real news network."
by MingPicket on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:34:11 AM PDT
by Alden on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:36:04 AM PDT
by assa9 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:36:00 AM PDT
Us Obama supporters already knew this
by wdmosely on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:01:08 AM PDT
From a National Review Blogger:
Tomorrow will be the first time I vote in D.C. (I recently changed my registration.) I didn’t know where to vote, so I called Hillary's HQ in northern Virginia. A very nice elderly lady answered the phone and I asked her if she could tell me where to vote. She took my address down and then kept me on the line for 10 minutes while she struggled to use a computer to find out where I was supposed to go. She then went to the DC board of elections site and finally, after taking my name and birth date, was able to tell me where my polling site is.
As an experiment, I decided to call Barack’s HQ to see what would happen. I dialed the 800 number and pushed the option to find out where to vote. A chirpy 20-something answered the phone and within 20 seconds told me where to go.
by Triangulate on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:07:16 AM PDT
Why in the world would a voter's birthdate be relevant for finding a polling place? Was the Clinton campaign operator skeptical that the caller was of voting age?
by Rieux on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:39:41 AM PDT
A voter must enter their name, age and address.
What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through... Lesh/Hunter
by Mannabass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:57:37 AM PDT
If I were the volunteer, I'd enter "1/1/1950" or something without asking the caller. I mean, WTF? It's voter information, not a porn site.
by Rieux on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:32:01 PM PDT
It's to protect against invasion of privacy.
by Mannabass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:46:41 PM PDT
No one has a right to know my party affiliation or polling location except me, unless I share the information. Seems pretty fair to me.
by Mannabass on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:48:32 PM PDT
Why do they need to know anything but the address? Two people living in the same home could have two separate polling locations?
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please." -Mark Twain
by walter mitty on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 02:28:29 PM PDT
I don't care if it's south of the Mason-Dixon line. Obama will win the day in Virginia, much to the chagrin of the 'rebels'.
by fou on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:14:31 PM PDT
Link to Obama's central internet-based phonebank here! Call Virginia, because we haven't won this until ... we've actually won it.
Remember the NH polls!
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by scardanelli on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:48:26 AM PDT
Once the weather gets bad, it will be hard to get people out. They need to vote as early as they can.
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by JPZenger on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:44:30 AM PDT
The same goes for voters in MD and DC
Beauty of a primary is that every vote counts. Winning by 2 percent is better than winning by 1 percent. Winning by 16 percent is better than winning by 15 percent. We need everyone to show up and vote today who live in those states.
I am a liberal and I'm damn proud of it
by smash artist on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:48:39 AM PDT
delegate, and that's what matters.
Winning the state is nice, but the delegate thresholds are decentralized and they're not generally at 51% - sometimes the 10 voters who get us from 42 to 43% or 66 to 67 are the ones that acutally win the delegate.
by scardanelli on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:54:12 AM PDT
You can go to this pdf to see how many delegates there are for your district. Slide 22 has the number by district.
by Jim W on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:00:59 AM PDT
A site called "The Green Papers" keeps track of all of this information for every state (and both parties).
Here's the Virginia Democratic page: http://tinyurl.com/... (You'll have to scroll down a little bit to see the delegate allocations.)
by Rieux on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:42:35 AM PDT
I just texted my lone DC friend and she replied she's voting for Obama!
Remember, Obmaa people, it is about more than just winning these states, we need to squeeze out every delegate we can today!
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by psycho liberal on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:56:40 AM PDT
will call him right now!
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by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:10:58 AM PDT
Their lines are busy because they are already calling everyone else. (All my VA friends are activists.)
by Free Spirit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:10:12 AM PDT
At least in this primary campaign season.
"We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson
by mayan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:17:38 AM PDT
the magic share is 62.5% (difference between a 3-1 and a 2-2 split).
For 5, it's 70% (halfway between 4-1 & 3-2).
For 6, it's 58.33% (halfway between 3-3 and 4-2)
For 7, it's 64.29% (halfway between 4-3 & 5-2)
For 8, it's 56.25% (to get 5-3) and 68.75% (to get 6-2)
I'm assuming that delegates are awarded proportionately by CD.
by Cream Puff on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:35:13 AM PDT
Virginia's pledged delegates (83 total) are awarded as follows: 18 at large 11 PLEO (effectively the same thing as at-large--only it's a separate count, which makes a difference for percentage numbers like the ones you've just cited), and 54 spread out among Congressional districts. Here's the Green Papers site explaining it all, including delegates alloted to each district: http://tinyurl.com/...
Maryland (70 total): 15 at large 9 PLEO 46 by Congressional district Green Papers: http://tinyurl.com/...
DC (15 total): 3 at large 2 PLEO 10 by municipal district (of which there are two @ 5 delegates each) Green Papers: http://tinyurl.com/...
Interestingly, DC has 23 superdelegates. That (23/15) has to be by far the highest super-to-pledged ratio of any jurisdiction in the country.
by Rieux on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:54:17 AM PDT
"It is time to make peace with the planet." - Al Gore (Nobel acceptance speech)
by hannahlk on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:49:15 AM PDT
I have no insider knowledge or anything like that. But today feels eerily like that cold Janaury day in New Hampshire. The weather is going to get bad tonight in significant parts of the Commonwealth. There's the allure of John McCain on the GOP side. And there's the big polling numbers for Obama that might make his voters complacents and Clinton's voters excited to lodge a protest vote.
by Partially Impartial on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 07:53:53 AM PDT
The point is to get some lazy-ass blogger to actually pick up a phone and call Auntie Doris in Richmond to remind her to vote.
Or to go stand on the corner with a "vote" sign during their lunch-hour.
Or, well, anything but sit here typing. . . (oops, guilty!).
What would Gandhi do? "The cause of liberty becomes a mockery if the price to be paid is the wholesale destruction of those who are to enjoy liberty."
by Robespierrette on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:09:16 AM PDT
...that their candidate is the underdog, so that 1) they rush out to donate money and make phone calls and 2) they are convinced that their candidate "won against the odds" when he wins. It's standard manipulation among political campaigns, and Daily Kos has become an arm of the Obama campaign. It's a good thing the FCC decided that blogs aren't partisan. Obama would have to declare all of the operating expenses of dKos as donations.
To hell with independents... I'll stick with the party that brought us social security, civil rights, and environmental protection.
by dianem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:18:05 AM PDT
This is nothing more than a cheer with a deceitful headline to garner a sense of importance.
This is an old, old trick, used by amateurs in any political organization (most often high school class president campaigns), and it does no good for the goal of generating NEW votes.
Its the equivalent of a boogie-man story. We are all adults here, at least all whose opinions matter. We have enough reasons to go out and vote when the time has come.
by Hjiorst on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:36:26 AM PDT
We are all adults here, at least all whose opinions matter.
IMO, the adults are in the minority everywhere. But the diarist isn't trying to sway opinions, adult or otherwise, she's trying to get out the vote.
We have enough reasons to go out and vote when the time has come.
And she isn't trying to get you to go out and vote; she's trying to get you to call those who might not be equally motivated and get them out to vote.
by Free Spirit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:14:29 AM PDT
She's published a "Look how important I am!" vanity blog, which will have no impact on anyone who's inclined to not vote. Posting trite reminders and whining to the Daily Kos crowd is, I reassert, useless.
To get out the vote, the diarist should be knocking on doors and making convincing arguments, or calling at a phone bank.
And If she's doing this, great, and diaries on this subject are fine and mostly harmless, but the use of titles that lie is a STUPID tactic. It is a sign of immaturity and is insulting to all of us.
Its a matter of principle. This tactic is popping up more often now. Can you imagine what that will look like if it takes off? We'd look like a liberal version of a wingnut site.
Ban dishonest headlines!
by Hjiorst on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:09:57 AM PDT
Repeated reminders aren't trite; they are effective.
The diarist is not whining about anything.
You have no idea if the diarist has been knocking on doors or phonebanking. Either way, if she gets two people to do the same, she will have done more with her diary than she could have done alone.
This is not about you, you, you. You are not the only person who reads DKos, and you have zero idea as to whether the rest of its readers will get out and vote or get out the vote without some encouragement to do so. If you are prepared to get out the vote without any encouragement, fine. Everybody is not you.
If you don't think the shoe fits, don't cram your foot into it and then whine, whine, whine about how much it pinches.
It is not a matter of principle. No principles whatsoever are at stake here. It's a matter of you thinking everything in the world is about you and you flattering yourself that you are better than everyone else and being indignant that someone would you consider to be beneath you.
by Free Spirit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:16:42 PM PDT
I'll explain this one more time.
I am not against encouraging people to do everything they can.
I am opposed to stupid headlines designed to "scare up" attention for themselves.
Deceitful headlines are a LAME trick. The whole premise is condescending.
Deceitful headlines do not help voter turnout.
Deceitful headlines make the rec list look stupid.
This is a writing critique. And its not just MY opinion.
Think of being in a film class where some genius has written a great film in which, at the very end, it ALL TURNS OUT TO BE A DREAM! Wow! You could spend all day trying to convince the guy that its just not gonna fly, but he won't admit that his great idea is just an old, tired trick thought up many times before.
Do not confuse strength of conviction for vanity. I am absolutely sure that I am right, in the same way that I know that ending a film with it all being a dream is not a good ending.
by Hjiorst on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:53:57 PM PDT
You're right. And that's the most important thing, isn't it.
by Free Spirit on Thu Feb 14, 2008 at 06:35:35 PM PDT
I should give her a call
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by Rex Freedom on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:56:41 AM PDT
She'll be so pleased you remembered her on Primary Day.
by Robespierrette on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:24:50 AM PDT
The pieces are set up waaay too much like NH in my opinion. People stopped talking about this like a contest, as if Obama was guaranteed a victory. He's not, by a long shot.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
by dagnabbit on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:25:10 AM PDT
compared to previous performances to lose this state. The primary electorate will be 1/3 black. That means he only needs about 35% of the white vote to win. He will easily get this. He is going to win. Everyone should still win, because I think he really needs a big win, which isn't guaranteed, but this kind of stuff is silly. In New Hampshire, we didn't really know what voting patterns would be. As it turned out, working class white Democrats of the sort that dominate the party in NH are very strongly for Clinton. Now we know a lot about the demographics of Obama and Clinton supporters more generally, and it's hard to see how Clinton wins this one.
Everyone should still vote, and do what they can to make sure others vote, of course. But all this fearmongering is silly.
Political geography, people. Political geography. It is not to be sneered at.
by jlkenney on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 08:42:34 AM PDT
have logged about 200 phone calls to Spanish speakers in TX. From our smattering things don't look too bad for Obama. I would say about 28-33% say they are voting for Hillary and 20-25% for Obama, and there are a lot of undecideds. Most seemed really glad to hear from us, and their main complaint about Obama was that they did not know him. They were receptive and happy to listen all the info I spewed at them. I think Obama could get a little over 40% of the Hispanic vote. He would cancel HRC latino-vote with his strong AA vote, which would leave it up by in large to the crackers. We'll see though.
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by marcusdean on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:18:29 AM PDT
in VA. I'm guessing MD and DC will be the same
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by MadScientist on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:07:59 PM PDT
I'm looking ahead to what I can do to help in Texas. That works for me. I'm a "red or green" kinda girl, not a cheese head or spam eater. So that's where my help goes.
"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus." . . . . . . . . . Mark Twain
by Land of Enchantment on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:32:30 PM PDT
Obama will lose Texas.
He will lose Ohio.
He will lose Pennsylvania.
He needs every vote he can get and his supporters will only get them if they work as if their heads are on fire.
by SouthernIndianaforLincoln on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:31:14 PM PDT
wide narrow
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