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universal healthcare, and I think you know it.
She is proposing universal coverage which is entirely different. Her plan will require people to pay a corporate insurer every single week, but it does nothing to make sure that people will be able to afford what the insurance won't pick up, and it does nothing to make sure they simply won't deny claims.
If you have information to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
But the insurance companies have gotten enough of my hard earned dollars already. Single payer socialized medicine is the only way to go.
Please explain why Hillary thinks it's okay for insurance companies to make billions in profits off the misery of others.
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by cometman on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:07:53 AM PDT
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Now you've GOTTA pay us.
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by polecat on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:12:44 AM PDT
Obama has gone back and forth. Do we have any faith that Obama would stand for public insurance on principle? So far, the only principle I've seen him dig in over is blogospere civility.
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by Pacific John on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:17:34 AM PDT
as does HRC. I find your mindreading as to whether they "mean it" unconvincing.
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by brendanm98 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:22:12 AM PDT
Initially, it was a pilot program only open to those who are currently uninsured (i.e. nor to me or my employees). He's just not dedicated to it. If he was, he'd say so.
by Pacific John on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:27:54 AM PDT
who don't want to compete the public insurance plans, they can't call it communist since there is still private insurance as an option, but they don't want to complete with government, medicare is too well run, the costs are kept down, they'll have to shimmy to match medicare for bang per buck.
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by anna shane on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:04:54 PM PDT
I wonder why these guys are spouting untrue pub talking points? Medicare is the model, we can all sign up for medcare if that's what we choose. She's only saying no one has to, they can keep their own coverage if they like. I hope Obama isn't misleading them on this point, is he, do you know?
by anna shane on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:02:49 PM PDT
include a public, Medicare-like option as a key component. Should Clinton be elected and propose her plan, you'll see the insurances companies line up against it.
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by another American on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:17:55 AM PDT
which is why I was glad to see him in the race as long as he was.
Would go a long way toward making our industry competitive, too.
by polecat on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:35:18 AM PDT
Hillary's plan can lead to single payer but only if enough of us who can afford to pay for our insurance opt for the medicare one. I have Kaiser but it means I can't move far from home. With medicare I could relocate, it'll be great.
by anna shane on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:06:22 PM PDT
that we need. Even the much vaunted Kucinich plan was about coverage, not about care.
Coverage, however, provides access to the care currently available for many people who are currently without it.
We need fundamental changes to the system. But traditional Medicare A and B leaves people with bills and does deny claims, all the time.
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by stitchmd on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:23:00 AM PDT
she won't let them deny coverage and she won't let them rule out pre-existing conditions. I'm sure it'll be limited to procedures that are approved, which is the same as now, no matter how cafe one's insurance is. You're quite wrong on this.
by anna shane on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:01:06 PM PDT
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