But NAFTA's a big part of the larger problem. I support Obama's stance on same.

on NAFTA that I could detect, and to tell the truth, it made me think Obama's NAFTA flyers were disingenuous. I support Obama, but not much will change on that issue, I think. There's no going back.
On the other hand, I think that the dollar is going to resolve that issue when it's worth so little Chinese goods aren't cheap anymore.

When will the US impose luxury taxes for large engine cars?

Now that would be a progressive move for the environment we could all applaud.

Is there something wrong with Chin discouraging over-consumption and gas guzzlers that increase CO2 emissions?

That there was China, and the structure, so his answers were broader as well.

what Farrakhan has to say than Farrakhan is Russert.  Maybe this is projection and a safe way for Timmeh's inner bigot to come out.

He's running for the presidency of America.

Not Israel.  It's about time that someone stood up to the neocons and zionists.

Watch this Youtube video

they would "scrap NAFTA." In fact, Hillary almost got into a screaming match with Russert because he kept rejecting her answe of renegotiation and demanding a commitment to "scrapping" it. I hope the canadian papers were going after Russert and not Hiullary or Obama because the unilateral scrapping-it idea was his alone.

modem  ...  more democratic

and connect via satellite.  =)

He didn't raise his voice, or change his pace.

When he was able to get the audience to laugh he won the hand and raked in all the chips.

because she was being petty.

Great job by Obama last night.

and is apparently a good player too!
I think it was in his biography.
Played in College and Springfield.

were right. I could reject a peanut butter sandwich simply because I don't want it. If I denounce a peanut butter sandwich, I'm making a stronger statement of disapproval.

It was just a silly point for her to try to make.

...she did seem reasonably happy that he did both denounce and reject...

because she was trying to be nice.

She was just being opportunistic and trying to twist the knife Russert just stabbed Obama with.

rejection of an endorsement from that Independence party.
She did seek their endorsement but said she didn't want it if they backed Buchanan for president. She did speak against anti-Semitism from the few on the right and the left, that was good, but she did not reject their endorsement outright.
(They ended up backing John Hagelin for president in 2000)

April 30, 2000

The two candidates for United States Senate sought the endorsement of the fractious Independence Party here today, but Hillary Rodham Clinton used her speech to attack the group for what she said was the ''anti-Semitism, extremism, prejudice and intolerance of a few shrill voices on both the right and the left.''

Mrs. Clinton added that she welcomed the endorsement of the party, but said emphatically that she would not accept it if the party supported Patrick J. Buchanan for president. ''I cannot and will not as the price for any endorsement embrace or excuse those who use hateful rhetoric that separates and divides,'' she said. ''So let me be just very clear: I will not run on a line with Pat Buchanan on the top of the ticket.''

Now that is not quite what she said in the debate

"I faced a similar situation when I ran for the Senate in 2000 in New York. And in New York, there are more than the two parties, Democratic and Republican. And one of the parties at that time, the Independence Patty, was under the control of people who were anti-Semitic, anti- Israel. And I made it very clear that I did not want their support. I rejected it. I said that it would not be anything I would be comfortable with. And it looked as though I might pay a price for that. But I would not be associated with people who said such inflammatory and untrue charges against either Israel or Jewish people in our country.

And, you know, I was willing to take that stand, and, you know, fortunately the people of New York supported me and I won. But at the time, I thought it was more important to stand on principle and to reject the kind of conditions that went with support like that."

That bothers me some because she made it sound like she outright rejected them, not just spoke to them about prejudice while seeking their endorsement.

So if she was trying to teach him something it was what? To misrepresent things later because most people won't know? That is an important political lesson.

Someone posted a diary on this 2000 endorsement issue last night.

Unles he rejected the "Anti-semitism"

The rejection being applied to a person is very divisive.
Reject their policies/statements

... reject any human being.  You "reject the sin and love the sinner," because God always gives people a chance to repent, so if you, the follower, do not give a person a chance to redeem themselves, you are not being true to your beliefs and trying to usurp God.

I was watching this exchange between Russert being nasty trying to get Obama to say something which would violate his inner religious beliefs, to score a political point, and I was just absolutely wincing inside.  I half expected Russert to say, well, Barrack, are you going to tell all American Muslims not to vote for you, because we know they're all anti- semites, or not? What about you, Hillary?

It's not Obama's place in the world to go around rejecting this person and that person in a religious context,  because they said awful things in the past.