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Everyone in the US is either an immigrant or decended from immigrants.
No, not everybody, you ignorant racist douchebag.
by djpat on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 11:49:40 PM PDT
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Don is right, although you would have to go back many thousands of years to find the Völkerwanderung that brought the Mongols and allied races over the Berring Straits into Alaska and down through the Americas, where they settled and became the Native Americans and the Indios.
Technically speaking, only Central Africa can claim that its inhabitants didn't wander in at some time in the last few million years...
The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.
by Spoc42 on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 03:33:17 AM PDT
I wish I would have seen this earlier.
How racist people on here are.
I suggest you learn the difference between the English language words migrate and immigrate, or migrant/immigrant.
Nobody claims (except for the theocon morons) that Mongols didn't migrate to the Americas 40,000 years ago.
The difference between the two words, and hence, the racism in the post I was replying to, is that there was nobody here when my ancestors first came across the Bering Strait.
Immigration, in the English language, means moving to a new country. There were no countries here when my ancestors came.
Therefore, by dictionary definition, Native Americans are NOT immigrants, and everyone in the US is NOT descended from immigrants.
And, to say such is a racist pile of crap that implies, by English language definition, that there were "countries" here in the Americas before my ancestors came here, which of course is a point of view that the archaeological record would completely disagree with.
So in conclusion:
Oh, and most importantly:
by djpat on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:32:31 AM PDT
by djpat on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:33:23 AM PDT
You know, I think this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black!
Moreover, I was reacting to what seemed to me to be a particularly well-hidden racist streak -- yours.
P.S. I have been speaking English for 50 years, and understand the difference between migration and immigration very well, since I have been living in Switzerland for over a quarter of a century.
by Spoc42 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 05:29:59 AM PDT
If you are so hot on who was where first, what about the recent evidence that the southern states and South America were settled by negroes who had come across the Atlantic Ocean (probably driven there by storms)? They were wiped out some 9-10,000 years ago by the invaders from the north...
by Spoc42 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 05:34:42 AM PDT
Biering Strait, YES EVERYONE. You are a bit too quick to jump to conclusions and condemn. Try this There are many religions being ignored and thisA sad day in American history: Wounded Knee If you are refering to the native American belief that the migration theory is a white man's myth, then it is only a matter of which you believe, not racism. You are being a bit trollish.
An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.
by don mikulecky on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:36:19 AM PDT
It shows what jumping to conclusions does.
by don mikulecky on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:38:11 AM PDT
How the fuck is it racist?
Btw, I'm a Native American (not full blooded). My wife is also a Native American (half Choctaw, half Chickasaw).
Given that, please explain to me how my reference is racist? Do you think I know nothing about Native Americans?
Oh, Mr. retired prof working for the center for biological complexity:
I'm a UC educated physicist, who has also worked as a professional archaeologist studying Native Americans and my work can be found in both the national archives and the archives of the State of California, and I currently hold two fucking jobs being a fucking Physicist that fucking knows how to fucking speak the fucking English language.
Given that, would you please explain to me how that wiki reference is racist? Better yet, could you please explain to my wife how it is racist? We would both really love to hear what you have to say.
Especially, given the fact that you are a retired professor and are now a fellow at some random Virginia (so many world class schools in Virginia!) thingy for biological complexity. Because THAT really makes you a fucking expert on the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Really, explain to me how you are at all qualified to discuss racism against Native Americans when your stupid professor ass doesn't know the difference between the English language words migrate and immigrate.
Please reference my original blockquote, and the word contained in it: immigrants.
Native Americans were not immigrants. They were migrants. Get out your dictionary and learn the difference.
Your statement was wrong, or it was blatantly racist. Either way, apologize for your fucking ignorance, and apologize for saying my link was racist.
Or, explain to me how my link was racist, but only after you have thoroughly studied the difference between the English words migrate and immigrate.
by djpat on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 03:06:38 AM PDT
wide narrow
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