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To get them to vote for Obama in hopes of getting Hillary as VP? It's tit-for-tat, and may stop the Clintons from making that argument if they think voters will swing over to Obama because of that.
What's madness but nobility of the soul at odds with circumstance?
by slinkerwink on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:10:15 AM PDT
to effectively neutralize the whole "you could get him by voting for me" meme.
"Hillary would make an excellent vice president...for someone". Cut to McCain endorsement footage. I know, I know, they can't do that.
Obama Everywhere!
by kismet on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:14:05 AM PDT
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Obama is ahead. He should flaot the possibility that he will refuse to be opn the ticket with Hillary (as he did) to bail her butt out.
But, by holding out the possibility of putting HER on the ticket with him, he is essentially saying that all of her attacks on him did not matter, and that his whole campaign theme of a new politics is all just tactical positioning and not serious.
It also rewards her bad behavior.
by Hesiod on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:15:29 AM PDT
I watched MTP and Dashle just asically repeated what Obama himself said in the Debate which is "Hillary would e on anyone short list".
That answer is taught in Politics 101 and if you thought this was Team Obama Floating anything it's you who are being STUPID!!
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by ctkeith on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:30:17 AM PDT
Daschle said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that Obama was looking for "the person who can serve in the capacity of President should he not be around. She's certainly in that category, but probably a lot of others as well."
(This is the story linked in the diary).
In other words--Hillary isn't so special.
Daschle's remarks seem perfectly within bounds, and this diary entirely overboard--not that that's so unusual around here these days.
by Hprof on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:34:57 AM PDT
Daschle didn't say anything Obama hasn't said. At no time did anyone on Obama's team promise Hillary a spot on the ticket.
An arguement can be made that Hillary has guaranteed Obama a spot, but it would be a week arguement.
by nisleib on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:47:42 AM PDT
Hillary's team is showing just how desperate they are.
To fully understand Christianity's duplicity, first recognize that the Vatican's St. Peter's Square is actually an oval.
by agnostic on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:50:18 AM PDT
Monster Inc will do or say anything, see Ken Star for an example.
My great hope is that when she goes down in flames she will take the DLC with her.
by nisleib on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:00:56 AM PDT
by agnostic on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:36:18 AM PDT
anorchofascist for Monster Inc, I stole it from him/her.
http://www.dailykos.com/...
by nisleib on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:48:11 AM PDT
Hillary Monster McClinton.
But I promised never to use Hillary Monster McClinton again, so that is the last time that you will see Hillary Monster McClinton here. I wonder if using Hillary Monster McClinton elsewhere is still appropriate. No, when I make a promise never to use Hillary Monster McClinton again, that mean that I will NEVER use Hillary Monster McClinton again. So it is only fair that I completely stop using Hillary Monster McClinton forever and a day.
Say goodbye to the term, Hillary Monster McClinton.
by agnostic on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 08:56:26 AM PDT
Countess Hillary: a Hillary doll with vampire fangs, bat ears, and cloak.
Frankenshill: a Howard Wolfson doll with classic styling: bolts in the neck, crude stitches holding together a block-shaped head
etc.
Collect the whole series! Amaze your friends!
by sumo on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 03:30:26 PM PDT
and I spologize to all butts who were insulted by this comparison.
by agnostic on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 03:33:09 PM PDT
...and Daschle was just being blandly respectful towards Clinton -- he wasn't coming close to seriously floating her as VP. The diarist is WAY overreacting here.
In any event, it is moot. Obama will NOT offer the vice-presidency to Clinton, which would totally undercut his "change" meme, and Clinton -- despite the diarist's feverish certainty she will do anything to be anywhere on the ticket -- would not be interested in the number two spot, after touting her two terms as First Lady as her president-in-training years.
I will vote for whoever or whatever the Democrats nominate -- animal, vegetable or mineral.
by Finck II on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:10:02 AM PDT
MR. RUSSERT: Would, would Barack Obama consider Hillary Clinton for vice president? FMR. SEN. DASCHLE: I'm sure she would. I--he's said on more than one occasion that, that Barack Obama has, has a lot of ideas about who ought to be vice president, and she's--she'd certainly fit as well. MR. RUSSERT: But if he said it's time to turn the page and not send the same people back to Washington, how could he possibly do that? FMR. SEN. DASCHLE: Well, I think that there are a lot of ways to turn the page, and certainly his candidacy is going to turn the page in many respects. There's no question about that. The bottom line is, he wants the strongest person, the person who can serve in the capacity of president should he not be around. She's certainly in that category, but probably a lot of others as well.
MR. RUSSERT: Would, would Barack Obama consider Hillary Clinton for vice president?
FMR. SEN. DASCHLE: I'm sure she would. I--he's said on more than one occasion that, that Barack Obama has, has a lot of ideas about who ought to be vice president, and she's--she'd certainly fit as well.
MR. RUSSERT: But if he said it's time to turn the page and not send the same people back to Washington, how could he possibly do that?
FMR. SEN. DASCHLE: Well, I think that there are a lot of ways to turn the page, and certainly his candidacy is going to turn the page in many respects. There's no question about that. The bottom line is, he wants the strongest person, the person who can serve in the capacity of president should he not be around. She's certainly in that category, but probably a lot of others as well.
"This...this is the fault of that Clinton Penis! And that powermongering wife of his!"
by CaptUnderpants on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:35:09 AM PDT
...not "Politics 101."
Obama should have leveraged Hillary's sesperation into a chance to reinfoirce his "I'm about changing politics in Washington" theme, and to point out that Hillary is engaging in the same old politics he's going to change.
Saying that she WAS on his short list, at one point, but that he's "reassessing" that after her Rovian campaign tactics over the past 3 weeks, would send a very clear signal. It would also be hardball.
by Hesiod on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:36:41 AM PDT
Your charactorization of what Daschle said is WAY over the top. His comment was a very polite and a perfectly appropriate way of making Russerts question FAVOR Obama.
At the end of the Daschle interview the only conclusion a viewer could come away with was that Hillary was playing a silly game and was a desperate politician. If someone floats a name for VP that person MUST think their VP choice can handle the job of President. CHECKMATE!
by ctkeith on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:45:48 AM PDT
Daschle said it's pretty bizarre for the #2 to be offering VP to the #1...he could have made it more strongly (I would have been really incredulous), but he made it...
by serrano on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:29:09 AM PDT
But that is not the only option. Your hardline choice means this issue would instantly dominate the media narrative all the way to PA. Perhaps this is simply not a narrative the Obama camp wants sapping away at its energy.
There is more than one way to handle an overture from a rival camp. One way is to reply with force. Another way is to starve it to death.
Since Sen Obama's own strategy seems to be working pretty well for him, I tend to roll with the strategic options the candidate chooses. A different candidate might well choose your option and that would be the most effective for them.
Psst! Don't panic
by Quicklund on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:15:19 AM PDT
I watched MTP and Dashle answered Pumpkin Head's question about whether Hillary would be a VP pick for Obama by countering something along the lines of yeah and so would a lot of other ppl
Your diary is just another distortion typical of the HIllary Campaign
You are a child of the universe; no less than the trees and the stars... Desiderata
by byteb on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:42:20 AM PDT
And how you could come to that conclusion after reading my entire diary (if you read it at all) is a mystery to me.
by Hesiod on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:49:22 AM PDT
Great warriors win battles by out flanking their opponents not by taking them head on.
The reason I'm supporting Obama is because unlike Hillary he doesn't Panic.The last week proved to me just how cool under pressure Obama can be and just like she proved with her AUMF vote Hillary Panics easily.
by ctkeith on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:57:39 AM PDT
And though Daschle did say that Hillary was a possibility, he also said that Obama's range of choices for VP would be wider than that.
by vbdietz on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 06:43:34 AM PDT
So it was kind of an awkward question for him.
by Hesiod on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 07:19:28 AM PDT
wide narrow
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