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but then, why are not going to switch parties?
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by spotDawa on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:48:57 PM PDT
Let's just say that Daily Kos has been able to open up my eyes to a whole new perspective on issues that I never gave a chance before. I find myself more and more drawn to the Democratic party since I began supporting Barack, and the more my party tries to demonize him, the quicker I will be willing to switch.
Now I don't believe and I never did That two wrongs make a right. If the world were filled with the likes of you Then I'm putting up a fight. --Michael Stipe
by Allenfire on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 11:57:20 PM PDT
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You know what they say about organizing Democrats-It's like hurding cats. Hillary is probably going to take this all of the way unless Obama can bounce back from the Wright issue. I am very concerned with this because Hillary has not touched this issue and it appears to have a life of its own. I don't personally believe that Obama should be held accountable for his pastors words that are contained in a 30 second sound bite. Right now everyone is looking for blood. It is truly disheartening.
It is frightening what is happening to our country.
by mouser68 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:12:17 AM PDT
Better late than never!
by Virginia mom on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:30:36 AM PDT
when we are misbehaving so badly. Please stick around after the nomination battle is over. We are normally pretty nice people.
And I agree. The sooner Hillary drops out, the better.
One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, DC, is we've got these vampire-busting devices. - George W Bush, Denver, August 2001
by pucklady on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:21:50 AM PDT
This is an eminently sane statement, and just about as moving as Obama's speech today:
sincerely apologize for what my party has done to you. If I could offer this amend with words stronger than this simple pronouncement, I would, but the verbal expressions of what I wish I could accurately convey to you escape me at the moment, but my convictions do not. I am truly, truly sorry for what my party has become. This has got to end.
We always accept and appreciate such a well-meant, well-spoken apology. It is the epitome of sincerity and the capacity to grow as a person. With things like this happening, it does make me believe in the possibility of unity.
It is time to move on from the past. I only hope that, as a nation, that we can.
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
by The Lighthouse Keeper on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:02:28 PM PDT
In my experience,I have friends who are Republican and are not of the hateful, Hannity/Rush type -
There is often a vast difference between "ordinary Republicans" who are not haters, and the Limbaughs of the world who gain money and power from villifying others, and seeking to keep us all hating each other.
If you love Bush, Vote John McCain '08
by biscobosco on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:23:19 AM PDT
may he rest in peace. There is nothing wrong with the Republican philosophy at the root though I don't happen to agree with it. However, the constant negotiation of honest conservatives and liberals is the foundation of progressive thought. I am glad to see that people such as yourself see the merit in Obama. Props for your analysis and clear reasoning.
by northsylvania on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 03:19:56 AM PDT
... such words and mean them. What is more beautiful than a mind in "learning mode"?
The Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen (= “kids for kids”): is a world cultural treasure.
by lotlizard on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 08:53:40 AM PDT
Sometimes I feel like Robert Louis Stevenson created me. -6.25, -6.05
by Translator on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:19:37 AM PDT
I'm not horrified by the Wright tapes, mostly because these are not uncommonly heard sentiments in many black churches, but I'm interested in how Republicans will regard it. My take is that the people it will bother the most will never vote for him anyway.
NetrootNews coming soon!
by ksh01 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 12:54:54 AM PDT
the Democratic party has is the ability to keep an open mind and think for yourself. We have many different flavors and shades of opinion. No lock-step required.
Don't confuse this confusion with disorganization, because we're not that organized yet. -5.13/-3.38
by Grannus on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 01:27:30 AM PDT
It's important that we all think for ourselves. That is the beauty of the progressive movement in the Democratic Party.
I have always considered myself an independent. I have voted both Democratic and Republican over the years. I have to confess that my first Presidential vote went to Richard Nixon.
But I have learned. And there are few Republicans who have earned my vote in the past 15 years... and none in the last 8 years.
All men are created equal
by TX Freethinker on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:45:20 PM PDT
inexperienced".
That's true and we all know it, but look where an experienced politician has taken our country so far. Our country is in a dire situation because our commander and chief has time and time again refused to listen to experts because his experience tells him that "he knows best".
I believe Barack has qualitites which will make him a great president:
(1) His lack of experience will mean that he WILL listen to a diverse group of experts who DO know more about a subject than he does and make decisions based upon REAL evidence, not his gut feeling or a political agenda.
(2) His message of optomism will help reunite this country. You are evidence of that, as are a large number of other Republicans and Independents who are tired of the same old politics.
(3) His honesty. Americans desperately want someone who they can believe in and TRUST, even when the news is bad.
Personally, I am not voting for a president because of the things he promises he can give me, but for what he can do for our nation.
We are in for some tough economic times and Americans are not going to like the news that our next president will eventually be forced to tell the American people so we need someone in office that they can trust.
Again...welcome
If you see me behind you..don't assume I'm following you. We just happen to be going the same way and if you slow down, I'll run over your ass.
by TKH on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 04:49:02 AM PDT
An individual who can give the kind of honest, from the heart, speech on a subject we all want to ignore is not inexperienced. The man has the wisdom of Solomon. It's almost unbelievable - given the recent crop of poor leaders this nation has been cursed with - that at this time in our troubled journey someone of this quality and integrity is available.
President Obama.... We should be so fortunate.
The American electorate now has to decide if they are as good as the candidate that is available.
We are parched... and have been lead to water. Will we drink?
The Christian Right is Neither...
by Prairie Logic on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:53:18 AM PDT
i hope you don't mind that i quoted your entry in it's entirety on my blog.
i quoted it because i hear similar sentiments from my conservative friends here in texas. all of them are supporting barack this year for the reasons you've stated. thanks to giving voice to these thoughts. we hope you stick around. =)
John Cornyn is an asshole with shoes. Support Rick Noriega!
by anna on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:26:55 AM PDT
I'm honored that you thought them to be worthy enough to quote... :)
by Allenfire on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:12:04 PM PDT
because one thing struck me.
I am also someone that knows when it is imperative to vote against his own.
After reading your diary, I respectfully would like to suggest that you are not now voting against your own. To the contrary, perhaps you have just redefined who "your own" are. And have, like many here, realized that your own are our own, and we had best be in this together if we will have the future that we and our children need and deserve.
Welcome to the tribe.
Peace.
Not a Cent to those who won't fight torture.
by not a cent on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:28:26 PM PDT
I remember when the Republicans had a president who could say a complete sentence. We heard every freaking day about the power of oratory to lift and inspire. Now all of a sudden words are scary, bad things, because the Republicans have no one who can use them.
I suppose they could make a case that it's about experience and the weight of your resume and stuff, but they lose there too!
Anyway, nice diary. Welcome!
The above comment is probably disrespectful of John McCain's military service somehow.
by RickMassimo on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:40:05 PM PDT
it just warms my heart to hear your words. That stupid "D" next to one's name is quite meaningless in the end when there were Dems voting for the war and a couple of pubs against it.
thanks for your diary...we have to stop thinking as one another as the enemy when the real enemy (IMO) is the misinformation and soundbites people are fed from the MSM.
For the record, as a NYer, I watched FOX non-stop after 911...i was a drone, crippled in my living room only willing to listen to the most "patriotic" of voices. Its still hard to admit that, so I know coming here was hard for you.
tipped and rec'd!!!! (1000 times if I could...bless you)
by pooh74 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:45:04 PM PDT
I know plenty of principled Republicans who essentially have been kicked out of their own party by the escalating extremism of a relatively small faction. It's a shame, because balance is important to our political discourse. It may take a few cycles until that balance is restored; for all our sakes, I hope it happens soon.
In the meantime, it's good to know we all can be the change we seek.
"You with your big words, and your...small, difficult words!" -- Peter Griffin ePluribus Media
by Penny Century on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:52:39 PM PDT
But I could never get the nerve to vote for W, so I cast protest votes. No more. Obama is worth voting for.
by rnaworld on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:58:36 PM PDT
democracy is strengthened when people (such as yourself) approach the (non)issues bandied about so casually by the media and the punditocracy from responsive rather than reactive positions.
"There is no limit to what you can do if you have the power to change the rules." -Josh Marshall
by grollen on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:07:22 PM PDT
I, too, am a recovering Republican. I was a Republican my entire life (literally, my father and grandfather were small town Republican politicians). I've been fed up with the party for many years. Four years ago I decided to campaign against Bush. As I learned more and more about what's really going on, I realized that the Republican Party left me a long time ago (if it ever really was my party). I changed from Republican to Independent, I guess you could say I was finding my political self. And I didn't feel like trusting another political party...
This year, Barack Obama inspired me to change from Independent to Democrat. He is not an extreme liberal as they purport. He stands for common sense. The Democratic Party is at a crossroads, and it is the Obama movement that will take it forward, into the future. We will stand for things like putting an end to torture, protecting our country without getting into needless wars, balancing our budget, social justice, and economic justice. This is the new Democratic Party. I know it's a big step, but if I can do it, so can you. Join us!
John McCain traded your $10 job for $5 and called it a bargain.
by dawnt on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:46:33 PM PDT
to have you with us sir. Thank you.
I've always believed, that if we could all stop playing the partisan game, the divisive game, and start actually talking TO each other, instead of AT each other, we can find our way.
Welcome to the big orange! :) Be careful and mind your head on the way in! Things can get pretty bumpy around here!
"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix."
-Christina Baldwin
by Erevann on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:51:26 PM PDT
I was raised Republican. Very Republican. My father is the president of a major oil company. My uncle was on the House Judiciary Committee back during the Clinton impeachment. Very Republican family.
The historical Republican party had a lot that was admirable about it. But the more I started learning about how the party as a whole had been voting these days as I began getting into politics in college (late 90s), the more I realized that they were supporting things that were completely against my ideals. It's one thing to support a market economy, but another to support getting rid of any and all regulation on it that you can and to give it a free pass on environmental externalities. It's one thing to support the ability of your nation to defend itself and to support our troops with good equipment and benefits, but another entirely to make the US spend more than half the world's total military spending. The gay-baiting, race-baiting, the censorship promotion, the outright hostility to the notion that not everyone is born with equal opportunities or that we should try to give everyone a fair chance to make a success of themselves (education funding, healthcare, etc), hostility to international diplomacy, and so on. The party simply was not for me.
I'm sure you won't agree with everything we do over here, but that's just fine. We're a very diverse party. While that means sometimes it can be like herding cats, we all share the desire to give everyone a fair shot of achieving their American Dream in as clean, peaceful, and prosperous of a world as we can muster.
by Rei on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:59:20 PM PDT
Obviously not a neo-con. If your a libertarian, you'll be surprised to find out how well recieved you'll be. You seem about my age and there is a growing fusion between social progressives and libertarians our age going on. Did you also like Ron Paul?
Just when they think they've got the answer, I change the question. -Roddy Piper
by McGirk on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:01:15 AM PDT
I would tend to be libertarian, but not completely. I did like Ron Paul, but mostly for his frankness. His isolationistic views were pretty concerning.
by Allenfire on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 10:00:08 PM PDT
My wife had a solid life-long identity with the Republican Party before (a) she met me, and (b) Bush launched his pre-emptive war. Her older sister has also come to identify with the Democratic Party (and dis-identify with the Republican Party) this year and is earnestly hopeful that Barack Obama will win the Presidency.
Since November, 2004, I have argued that the Democratic Party will only succeed when it finally finds a way to respond effectively to the character assassination tactics that the Republican Party has relied on almost exclusively to win elections since the Reagan Revolution. To me, that meant defining them back, demonizing them for using using their talents at misrepresentation and obfuscation.
I was slow to see it (I was an Edwards supporter) but Barack Obama has shown me over the past couple of months that he has a grasp of the political world and human nature that far exceeds anything that we typically see out of Washington or the mainstream press. It's his utter lack of guile that does it, I think. He has shown me that we may be able to define the Republican Party without the expressions of scorn that I thought might be necessary at a certain point. Barack simply relies on being his real self, and that just might be enough to shine the mirror back on his attackers.
He knows that he needs to be heard quickly whenever his political opponents launch another attempt to malign his character, but fortunately he has supporters who have given him the opportunity to do this with their generous contributions. He is able to get his REAL motives/character quickly out there on the airwaves, where it is able to displace the negative images/associations that his political opponents are trying to create.
I am getting really hopeful of profound change in this country, driven by an exceptional man's example and his willingness to listen, if only we can get Hillary to stop being---if you'll excuse the expression---a Republican jerk.
by James Kroeger on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:02:39 AM PDT
Our state has no registration... so unless you are involved with the party, you can just observe.
When I ran for office, I had to publicly declare and could not in good conscience choose the Rush Limbaugh party, even though most were shocked that I wasn't a "Republican". To this day, many claim I'm not really a "Democrat" whatever that means.
I believe you and I are probably not that far apart in our views, and like I did many years ago, you will have to decide where you can make the most difference. Republicans would have loved to have had me but would have patted me on the head as they marginalized and ignored my moderation.
I have always said the Religious Right would destroy the GOP... adding the Neocon element has been like pouring gasoline on a fire. The GOP house is burning down. If the crazies do what it appears they are gleefully beginning to do with this race crap... the Republican brand will go the way of the Whig party as far as the next generation is concerned. The young people who have to live in this world when we are gone are just not interested in that crap anymore and are not going to take it.
by Prairie Logic on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:11:26 AM PDT
so here's my thanks. Saner heads need to prevail.
by Hear Our Voices on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:34:19 AM PDT
wide narrow
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