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Only weapon we have left in labor force.
Spoon or no spoon, you still have to fight Agent Smith.
by indeterminate cutlery on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 05:28:43 AM PDT
(re: your sig)
_______________________________ Healing the universe is an inside job.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 05:38:35 AM PDT
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A fictional charactor to solve the "post fact" problem. brilliant!
What in the hell is going on here?
It's as simple as can be. The working class are being scammed. There is really nothing more to it than that. The real wealth of our society is being concentrated in the pockets of the wealthy. The rest of us need to be convinced to keep our wages low and our consumption high.
This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.
by Mr X on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 06:37:22 AM PDT
looked.
There is a hell of a lot of money to be made in slowly embezzling what remains the wealthiest populace in the world.
What investors are reacting to is the fact that for all the housing slump, for all the underclass, America still has vast riches to be looted.
Fact-free is an interesting way to spin it, but the bottom line is that these investors are right. As long as the taxpayers will bail out the investors, stocks are worth whatever they rise to.
by ne plus ultra on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:12:28 AM PDT
the shareholders of Bear Sterns are upset at the $2/share bailout. They want more.
If no one is punished and the system is not changed, we're just going to keep seeing the same behavior over and over again.
Sigh.
Je suis inondé de déesses
by Marc in KS on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:27:14 AM PDT
We need to go to the Hamptons this weekend.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:30:08 AM PDT
66% of Americans think Iraq is hurting the economy. This isn't a fact pushed by the MSM people have come to their own senses on it. I also have heard quite a bit of "populist" anger over the Bears Sterns bail-out (BS bail-out) by people on the streat. I live in a swing county, in a swing state (Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Kerry for both the county and state) so I think that means a lot.
-1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power"
by dopper0189 on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 08:02:34 AM PDT
Short term, rake in all the houses and property we can, especially while the dollar is dropping.
Long term, mop up all the remaining Boomer generation wealth (and I mean ALL of it) with medical insurance, "treatment" and pharmaceuticals.
I just don't see any of it any all that coincidental. It looks pretty planned to me, just like $110/barrel oil.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:29:06 AM PDT
interesting. Economic revelations here.
"We are a Plutocracy, we ought to face it. We need, desperately, to find new ways to hear independent voices & points of view" Ramsey Clark, US AG
by Mr SeeMore on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 08:36:18 AM PDT
Excellent point. As a leading edge baby boomer who has worked hard to attain some cushion is watching it erode already. And, by conventional standards, it should not yet be eroding.
The other thing boomers are caught in (and it will get worse) is the squeeze between our parents and our kids. Our parents are hurting because, even after all their careful planning, their modest bond money is eroding. Our kids, despite good educations and opportunities, are in a lousy job market and a pricey housing market. My peers also have to help their kids.
So, we're bled by the economy because we're still getting hit big time with taxes, we're desperate to help our parents and our kids, and, ooooops! then there's us.
If my family is feeling the pinch, the boomers, many of whom who have not planned as well as my family, are suffering economically. They/we will no longer be the cash cow that this administration is counting on ... soon the well will be dry.
This administration isn't good at anything. They're counting on a cash resource that they never calculated. IOW, they didn't connect the dots (what's new?) and do the easy math.
July 9, 2008 -- I watched helplessly while Congress destroyed my Constitution. R.I.P.
by bleeding heart on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 09:58:46 AM PDT
I believe the whole endeavor has been a smashing success. They are very good at what they want to accomplish, part of which entails us letting them off the hook because W is teh stoopid.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, he's eating steak from truly organic cows from Japan, no downer cows for Georgie, and soaking his feet in our blood.
Everything in my family is as you describe as well.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 10:07:10 AM PDT
Your point about a "smashing success" is well-taken. However, I think they thought they'd get to ride the crest a lot longer. They didn't expect to see the economy crumble before they left office, IMHO. I think they wanted to be able to blame the Dems for that.
So, they got want they wanted. My guess is they want even more, but there's this thing about blood and a turnip. They hadn't counted on the rapid econimic collapse and us being so finite.
The good news: at least we'll be able to say for the next 100 or so years: "Republicans ruin the economy." and "Republicans can't run government." That might get them off the "too many taxes" mantra.
by bleeding heart on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 12:14:08 PM PDT
"They hadn't counted on ... us being so finite."
They probably had bought their own line of crap and thought that the middle class was more comfortable than necessary. Ignoring decades of stagnant wages and increasing household debt. Becoming jealous of wealth they imagined we had, as though we were extorting from them and not the other way around. And ruining us all just to make sure.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 02:23:08 PM PDT
as a group that any wealth that is not in their hands has been stolen from them, even if they had nothing to do with creating it.
Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.
by alizard on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 01:12:24 AM PDT
the gains, socialize the losses
That's what we're seeing. Looks a lot like Versailles before the Revolution.
Whoever considers one person's life more valuable than another's will soon find himself unworthy of his own.
by rilkas on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:29:38 AM PDT
The sleep of reason brings forth monsters. --Goya
by MadScientist on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:34:41 AM PDT
I think the big question is whether Europe and India will lead the new century alongside a rejuvenated American democracy, or whether China, Singapore, Dubai and the various "off-shore" empires will rule the new economy alongside a Total-Information state in the US.
It won't take a revolution, just a lot of vigilance and a renewed effort to court the democracies as arbiters of international justice.
by ne plus ultra on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:50:32 AM PDT
The people ruling the game are beyond borders and in control of the money supply (not just wealthy, the gatekeepers of wealth itself).
I know that's standard conspiracy theory fare. I have decided they are correct, if not in the details, in the basic fact that we are ruled by an invisible hand. And it ain't the friggin' "market" either.
I just wish it would gets its finger out of my ass.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 09:09:29 AM PDT
in control.
Sorry, your friends have been thrown out of office.
Debt can be cut to 30 cents on the dollar Argentine-style.
by SingleVoter on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 11:18:34 AM PDT
International capital is as mainstream as an economic component gets. The fact that private institutions and money speculators have a lot to say about money supply and valuation is well accepted.
One of the beauties of this system is that the mindset of the modern peasant has been acclimatized to accept it. We have become consumers. The assimilation is complete.
by Mr X on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 12:57:43 PM PDT
your reaction to the Neo reference above.
Your point was funny, the irony of a fictional character as a comment on the Post-Fact world.
So why do I keep thinking about it? Because, I realize, there is more truth in the allegory that is The Matrix than there is in our leaders' daily excretions of propaganda.
Post-Fact World, indeed.
by spotDawa on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 01:33:51 PM PDT
Today's world gives every advantage to the powers that be. Go sit in a tank sometime and then ask yourself what you would do against one. And more importantly, the powers that be have perfected their control of the information stream, to the point that even if there was a revolution most of us wouldn't know who was really going to do some good versus the ones who would just rape us all in the same way these bastards have. And Americans in general aren't aware of the basic facts that would allow them to reason out who would be doing the right thing.
We are hosed, unless we get some decent leadership. I think a lot of people know that, but they're unsure of who to believe. The MSM will be pushing for McCain, but maybe, just maybe, the public will see through that.
"we must make the rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization" - Al Gore
by racerx on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 08:55:26 AM PDT
who wins American Idol and DWTS.
Oh, wait, then there's America's Got Talent.
Yes, we have the talent to be deceived.
Civil marriage is a civil right.
by stitchmd on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 01:28:41 PM PDT
But to the Larry Kudlows of the world, that's a good thing--read "low wage inflation." The point of this "centrist economic policy" has been to transfer more of the nations riches to the richest people in the nation, and it has been spectacularly successful.
Or at least until the idiots started investing in junk mortgages...but even there, somebody is going to win. J.P. Morgan, for instance.
by MadScientist on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 07:33:52 AM PDT
They're paying $10 a share for Bear Stearns.
They bumped their offer up 500 percent overnight... for a company with God-knows-how-much debt and God-knows-what real assets, a company that nobody in their right mind would want to buy. Unprecedented, you say? Insane, I say!
JPM is not out of the woods by a long shot.
message to the future
by CharlieHipHop on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 08:45:16 AM PDT
are taking all the risk out of it for JP Morgan.
by MadScientist on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 09:09:14 AM PDT
no matter how many delusions we spin for ourselves. How many schemes look okay until the eventual collapse?
by Nailbanger on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 08:34:12 AM PDT
Yes, a general strike. The capitalist mind reels at the idea that people might actually not buy anything with their money.
by emacd on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 10:29:41 AM PDT
Most of the people I know have pretty much stopped descretionary spending anyway, and what money we have managed to accumulate is worth less every day.
"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken
by SueDe on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 10:45:45 AM PDT
wide narrow
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