forget it?

Meet the Family
http://www.theocracywatch.org/secret_theocrats.html

"Christ's kingdom is not a democracy" This is their model for leadership. They would often say, "Everything you need to know about government is right there in the cross - it's vertical not horizontal."

They are really interested in the biblical concept that whether you are good or bad it doesn't matter, what matters is whether you are chosen.

Jesus plus nothing:
Undercover among America's secret theocrats
http://www.harpers.org/...

There they forge "relationships" beyond the din of vox populi (the Family's leaders consider democracy a manifestation of ungodly pride) and "throw away religion" in favor of the truths of the Family. Declaring God's covenant with the Jews broken, the group's core members call themselves "the new chosen."

"King David," David Coe went on, "liked to do really, really bad things." He chuckled. "Here's this guy who slept with another man's wife—Bathsheba, right?—and then basically murders her husband. And this guy is one of our heroes." David shook his head. "I mean, Jiminy Christmas, God likes this guy! What," he said, "is that all about?"

The answer, we discovered, was that King David had been "chosen." To illustrate this point David Coe turned to Beau. "Beau, let's say I hear you raped three little girls. And now here you are at Ivanwald. What would I think of you, Beau?"

Beau shrank into the cushions. "Probably that I'm pretty bad?"

"No, Beau. I wouldn't. Because I'm not here to judge you. That's not my job. I'm here for only one thing."

"Jesus?" Beau said. David smiled and winked.

"That's the way everything in life happens. If you're a person known to be around Jesus, you can go and do anything. And that's who you guys are. When you leave here, you're not only going to know the value of Jesus, you're going to know the people who rule the world. It's about vision. 'Get your vision straight, then relate.' Talk to the people who rule the world, and help them obey. Obey Him.

And if you think any of this sounds familiar but can't quite place it, it may be because some of it mirrors very closely a very secular source.

Noble Lies and Perpetual War
http://www.informationclearinghouse....

A second fundamental belief of Strauss’s ancients has to do with their insistence on the need for secrecy and the necessity of lies. In his book Persecution and the Art of Writing, Strauss outlines why secrecy is necessary. He argues that the wise must conceal their views for two reasons – to spare the people’s feelings and to protect the elite from possible reprisals.

The people will not be happy to learn that there is only one natural right – the right of the superior to rule over the inferior, the master over the slave, the husband over the wife, and the wise few over the vulgar many. In On Tyranny, Strauss refers to this natural right as the "tyrannical teaching" of his beloved ancients. It is tyrannical in the classic sense of rule above rule or in the absence of law (p. 70).

Now, the ancients were determined to keep this tyrannical teaching secret because the people are not likely to tolerate the fact that they are intended for subordination; indeed, they may very well turn their resentment against the superior few. Lies are thus necessary to protect the superior few from the persecution of the vulgar many.

The effect of Strauss’s teaching is to convince his acolytes that they are the natural ruling elite and the persecuted few.

It is the world view that concerns me, not whether someone can be shown to be a card carrying member of this or that organization.

But it is this world view that we have seen put into action most obviously and openly these last 7-plus years.  It is what allows Cheney to give his "So?" response to public opinion.  It is what allows an unashamedly false justification to be given for the war in Iraq and allows that justification to be re-written many times as if it had never been other than the current explanation.

They really don't think we need or more importantly deserve the truth.

Anyone with that perspective is a danger to us and a danger to our democracy.

Sometimes it's not just habit, or personal weakness in times of stress.  

Sometimes it is strategy to which they feel entitled because of their belief in their own mission and indispensability.

We don't know enough to answer what it is with Hillary, but based on what we have seen of both Bill and her by now we should know enough now to ask.

the senescent fool that he is, especially during the debates.

Hmmmmm..  Obama v. McCain . . . wonder if I can get action in Vegas on that matchup.

Granted the Dems were throwing crap-balloons at each other, but you have to wonder whether McCain is redrawing his campaign schedule to spend October in Europe.