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  •  Gravelmentum (3+ / 0-)

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    I love it.
    But we all knew he was crazy.

    If we cannot elect this man, we don't deserve him.

    by lisastar on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:19:18 AM PDT

    •  Is it Gravel or Grovel? n/t (2+ / 0-)

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      Thank God the Democrats won control of the Senate... otherwise, think of how different everything would be. -G.Greenwald

      by Gorette on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:28:09 AM PDT

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    •  It's a Gravelanch! (8+ / 0-)

      Go Mike!  We all need hobbies!  What's wrong with the Socialist Worker's Party?  They need to get on board the Gravel juggernaut!

      •  People - please stop picking on Mike Gravel. (8+ / 0-)

        In the past, he was one of the best senators.

        As Senator, Gravel became nationally known for his forceful but unsuccessful attempts to end the draft during the Vietnam War and for having put the Pentagon Papers into the public record in 1971 despite risk to himself.

        Now it appears that the man may very well be ill. Do Democrats believe in treating ailing seniors as a butt for jokes? Espeically when they've contributed so much in the past?

        "Lies return." - African proverb

        by Night Train on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:43:56 AM PDT

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        •  When they attack effective progressives... (1+ / 0-)

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          like Chris Dodd, John Edwards, and Barack Obama as out-of-touch, then yes it is perfectly appropriate to mock, ridicule, and criticize said ailing senators.

          Moreover, I disagree with the notion that he was one of our "best" Senators.  While reading the Pentagon Papers into the public record was noble - it was no more noble than the NY Times and Washington Post's printing of the Pentagon Papers.  And they did it first.

          Gravel's advocacy for the lunatic national referendum is dangerous.  National referendum laws would essentially allow Richard Scaife and his ilk to set the national agenda.

          Look I'm sure Mike Gravel is a nice man, I'm sure he means well, but he behavior is harmful to efforts to make real, effective change.  I have no sympathy for this old coot.  None.

          I really don't want an African-American as President...I think he would put too many minorities in positions over the white race. - Clinton voter

          by Woodwards Friend on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:57:13 AM PDT

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          •  Well, (0+ / 0-)

            I didn't say I'd ever vote for him. But now the man may well be ill. Anyway, I really don't see how his current actions are doing any harm.

            "Lies return." - African proverb

            by Night Train on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:09:44 AM PDT

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            •  Anyone... (0+ / 0-)

              who is drawing votes away from solid progressives for the sake of idealogical purity is doing this nation harm, however slight.

              If he is ill, that's tragic, but it is also his family's responsibility to get him help.  When he enters (re-enters after 28 years) the public arena is public positions are fair game just like anyone else.

              I really don't want an African-American as President...I think he would put too many minorities in positions over the white race. - Clinton voter

              by Woodwards Friend on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:15:04 AM PDT

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        •  One of the best from Alaska, anyhow (0+ / 0-)

          Compared to Stevens, either Murkowski, or Rep. Young, he's Bobby Kennedy.  In youth and appearance as well as statesmanship.

          Still, that says more about Alaska Goopers than it does about him. Think he could have an independent run against Palin in a couple of years and make it interesting? How about Lisa Murkowski?  Could he get enough votes in Alaska to deny the EVs to McCain? Or to sink Obama's uphill chance in Alaska completely?

          "...And I woulda got away with it, if it hadn't been for that meddling Kos!" ---attributed to Tom DeLay

          by AdmiralNaismith on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:58:21 AM PDT

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        •  Eh (1+ / 0-)

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          He's the custodian of his own reputation. It's not our fault if he burned through his own credibility. Zell Miller had some great accomplishments as a governor, after all, and don't get me started on how some people have changed their views on Bill Clinton since he opened his mouth about Obama.

          Someone should have intervened with him a year ago, but no one did.

    •  I prefer "gravelanche" (6+ / 0-)

      Help build the progressive governing majority at Openleft.com

      by Scientician on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:29:47 AM PDT

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    •  Leave the Gravelanche alone! (4+ / 0-)

      How friggin dare anyone out there make fun of the Gravelanche after all he's been through. He lost the nomination, he went through a bankruptcy. All you people care about is..... readers and making money off of him. HE’S A HUMAN! What you don’t realize is that the Gravelanche is pouring out his heart for you voters and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him. He hasn't had all his marbles in years! All you people want is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE. LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even ran as a Democrat there for a while, you BASTARDS! LEEEAVE THE GRAVELANCHE ALLLLLONE!

      Oh, yeah, and stay the hell off his lawn!

      "Oh, TV. Is there anything you can't do?" -- Homer Simpson

      by Melody Townsel on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:31:50 AM PDT

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