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keep expectations in check; the Clintons excel at playing the expectations game [guess you kinda have to when your candidate sucks] but lets try and beat them at their own game here - for once!
by Timothy J on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:38:55 PM PDT
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or it's a victory for us.... -Barack Obama (paraphrase)
"Politics is a lousy way to get things done."
by DetroitBuckeye on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:45:31 PM PDT
a pipe dream for Hillary at the moment...unless PA voters are totally stupid. It depends, in large part, on voter turnout in the population centers...she's got a good handle on the rural vote.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
by darthstar on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:51:28 PM PDT
I support Hillary and I'm pretty sure I'm not "totally stupid." And, the other half of the Dem base isn't "totally stupid" either.
by DetroitBuckeye on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:55:17 PM PDT
but surely pretty conflicted...
Detroit "BUCKEYE"????
by z adura on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:58:35 PM PDT
by DetroitBuckeye on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:08:01 PM PDT
Yikes...Exploding Big 10 heads everywhere.
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King Jr.
by wishingwell on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:09:06 PM PDT
when you went to OSU. However, the last seven years have been pretty easy. Go Tressel!
by DetroitBuckeye on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:39:35 AM PDT
Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are? ~ Frank Zappa
by alliedoc on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:16:48 AM PDT
It's probably realistic. The demographics in PA (on the face of it) probably are going to cut in her favor. If you look at Pittsburgh's mayoral race last year, I think that might be a preview of what you see in the primary.
by robertgp124 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:00:22 PM PDT
but secretly I hope for it to be within 1-2%. Or a win, that'd just be awesome.
that said for a state his campaign isn't expecting to win, he's got a huge ground game. 29 offices and counting, statewide. Clinton, not so much. 5 last I heard.
Central PA Kossacks"Obama can hope all over me!" Si se fucking puede!
by terrypinder on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:10:07 PM PDT
A win would be awesome. Something within 5 points, super. Within 1-2% - you've got to credit him with one heck of an incredible ground game.
by robertgp124 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:27:58 PM PDT
with a city whose populace tends not to even vote, they registered thousands.
They also turned Clinton Co., a rural county in north central PA which technically is solid Clinton Country and is hard core Republican territory, blue by several hundred votes. the voter registration efforts here are just amazing and inspiring. I'm excited about it and more excited for what they'll mean downticket.
by terrypinder on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:32:25 PM PDT
I am proud to say and it was great. We just went door to door where there were independents and I would estimate that I personally registered about 100 in a day (as democrats). I noticed that a lot of independents were really democrats but had registered in republican drives. They noticed that the volunteers didn't seem interested in them when they said they were democrats so they chose independent in fear that the application would disappear if it had a D box checked.
I actually didn't take the applications but left them.
by alliedoc on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:22:53 AM PDT
10% in PA
Obama wins by 15% in NC
and in IN it comes close.. Obama 52% Clinton 47%
McSame = 4 more years of BUSH
by gnwmann on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:04:08 PM PDT
that Philly and its suburbs and as well as Pittsburgh and its suburbs and Penn State has registered tons of new voters ( and the faculty is overwhelmingly for Obama) will counterract the other areas of the state where Clinton is strong. As she is quite popular in Wilkes Barre, Scranton, and in other smaller, rural regions.
by wishingwell on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:08:09 PM PDT
I'm going to see if I can make it there and then home in time to see him in the 'burg, and then maybe take Monday off to see him in Lancaster.
I'm wondering if they'll move it to Beaver Stadium---20,000 people are expected.
by terrypinder on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:11:24 PM PDT
very very close or win Pennsylvania. The latest Rasmussen poll has Clinton 49%, Obama 39% (dated March-24). Plus, Obama is just getting started in PA. Tickets for his speech in Pittsburgh had the line around the block 300 strong for hours. I am feeling very good about Obama's chances.
With the very high expectations that Clinton has set for herself, anything less than 15 points would be a defeat and less than ten an embarrassment. If she outright loses, she should withdraw.
by alliedoc on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:12:13 AM PDT
by dan667 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 02:54:45 PM PDT
and do the same in all of the remaining states, or she can never catch up in earned delegates. It's not an expectations game, it's just a fact.
by elmo on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 03:13:38 PM PDT
wide narrow
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