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democracy dies.
by greenskeeper on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:09:32 AM PDT
There's no other word for it. I hope that the MSM reports this.
I drink your milkshake
by there will be blood on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:17:22 AM PDT
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...gee, where have I heard of this happening before?
Hey, maybe Carville has been borrowing his wife's playbook...
by leftyboy666 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:23:47 AM PDT
the night before March the 4th people were very worried about the conventions and Obama still pulled ahead. We need to stay positive because we will still come out on top. When I'm there tomorrow I will report any irregularities.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. ~George Orwell
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:28:37 AM PDT
can you contact an Obama campaign lawyer? Do you have access to attorneys?
"Beware the terrible simplifiers" Jacob Burckhardt, Historian
by notquitedelilah on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:30:30 AM PDT
information to the leaders of the local campaign. I emailed them often prior to 3/4 about things I was hearing and they forwarded all my concerns straight to the top!
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:41:11 AM PDT
by notquitedelilah on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:42:41 AM PDT
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:44:57 AM PDT
by swtexas on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:48:09 AM PDT
Southern Dallas County. Google Cedar Hill or Duncanville or Desoto. I live in this area and work in the Oak Cliff area.
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:54:17 AM PDT
just to show how pumped people are about being a delegate:
She researched more after we talked and she is now a delegate for Obama tomorrow. She is so excited. She called me the next day, 3/5, to tell me.
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:51:09 AM PDT
will be at D12 convention at the Gaylord tomorrow - where are you going to be?
by lost my ocean on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:22:43 PM PDT
It's going to be packed for sure. I am looking forward to it. Registration starts at 8:00a.m. so I will have coffee in hand when the doors open. Tarrant County is also part of District 9 and my co-worker will be there at the TCC East Campus. They had a mock conventation the other week and ran through it twice! I was impressed. High-fived her since she didn't know what a primary was two months ago!
by ElizabethAM on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:24:10 PM PDT
Rove? I know he wanted to.
Link
Just days after the November 2004 election, Bill Clinton pulled Rove aside at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas. "Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did," Clinton told Rove, according to the book "The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008," by John F. Harris and Mark Halperin. "I want to get you down to the library. I want to talk politics with you. You just did an incredible job, and I'd like to really get together with you and I think we could have a great conversation."
No doubt there are calls galore between Turdblossom and the Clinton campaign. You want tips to suppress the votes, Karl is the go-to guy.
It would certainly go a long way to explain the foul stench of rethuglican dirty tricks that permeates her entire campaign.
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
by mentaldebris on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:57:57 AM PDT
then president of her Wellesley College Republicans.
She has not changed a drop.
BTW: anybody else have a "tin foil" moment during the Monica Lewinsky morass ?
What's a POTUS doing getting caught at a $2 affair ?
Screwed up Gore to no end. Made Democrats raw meat for two election cycles, despite the very good economy.
Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.
by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:48:00 AM PDT
by Phil S 33 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:24:11 AM PDT
really, does any sane person believe by using these tactics, they will be looked on in a positive light.
Every day it's a new lie, and new underhanded tactic. Here's the lie she told that I only learned about yesterday:
It's really sad to watch somebody self-destruct on the national stage. Is there nobody out there who can make her see that her tactics are back-firing and making her her look like a liar and a cheat? Compare that to the impression of Obama that he is honest and intelligent.
How much lower does she have to stoop before it's over?
by hungrycoyote on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:25:34 AM PDT
This was one of the first and most powerful signals of her campaign's utter disregard for the truth, and I'd be surprised if even 10% of Hillary backers know about it.
The aftermath of nonviolence is the creation of the beloved community, while the aftermath of violence is tragic bitterness. - MLK
by cityyear95 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:28:54 AM PDT
by jqb on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:19:28 AM PDT
Disenfranchise the caucus voters in Texas and whine about "every vote counts" in MI and FL.
Again, credibility, honesty. She's beyond the pale.
by 57andFemale on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:28:52 AM PDT
I've been blaming Hillary for her campaign. I'm no longer certain. If the campaing had followed the standards it used into Super Tuesday, she would have had a bright future. As it is, she looks like a sour loser. But how bright a future would the tops of her campaign staff have had? They took an obvious front-runner and lost. Penn looked like he had shit for brains. Maybe those guys are getting their vengeance on the guy who spoiled their only opportunity.
"The three main issues in this campaign are Iraq, Iraq, and Iraq." -- Bill Foster
by Frank Palmer on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:36:18 AM PDT
just a bunch of asshats. I never wanted to put her down, but she is dishonest and seems to have a certain amount of disdain for- oh hell- i'm without words.
by swtexas on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:52:00 AM PDT
This is not lying.
From the reactions when the Tuzla vid came out, you have to think it possible that Hillary was as surprised as everyone else.
She had reworked the facts to a fantasy -- the hero-under-fire dream.
Tuzla is not the only delusion. She manufactured new fantasies for SCHIP, the health care debacle, a faked meeting with Irish women and invented statements in Belfast, child protection, and a host of other events.
The pattern is that she goes off imagining that she was the most or one of the most active participants in these activities.
Like Bush43, Hillary is a narcissist. Her dreams about herself become her subjective reality, replacing what she knew as true experience in the past.
Bush43 does it all the time, too.
by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:56:08 AM PDT
Is that Hillary has, as far as I can tell, deferred to these advisers time and time again. Before Iowa and New Hampshire, and even up until Super Tuesday, I felt like there were flashes of the Hillary Clinton I kept hearing existed--the warm, empathic, progressive woman who could be not only a decent president but a good one. Every time, though, those flashes were tamped down and then they stopped coming at all. the last one was a the end of debate #7,867 where she said she was honored to share the stage with Obama. Then--wham---kapow--came the below the belt blows, so we are left with a choice: was Hillary just so unprepared for anything after Super Tuesday that she feels trapped in a corner and is just lashing out or does she defer to the judgments of petty, small-minded men who only know how to fight ugly?
Either choice speaks badly of Hillary, and either way, the buck stops with her. This is her campaign. I just wish I could stop the ride and get off because it's making me sick.
A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future. ~ Leonard Bernstein
by michstjame on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:54:01 AM PDT
what she is doing ???
Blithering on after the Tuzla tapes came out ???
That was not exactly rational behavior.
by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:59:11 AM PDT
She can go MUCH MUCH lower. She starts suing everybody soon enough just to get what she wants.
Tht's her main skill, PR spin and suing people.
Heads up.
by opedn on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:38:53 AM PDT
Are you insinuating that she has ties to the cult of Scientology? You may be confusing her with Cong. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen down in South Florida. Oh, no, wait, I may get sued for this Comment!
;-)
by Woody on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:13:54 AM PDT
And I feel like cursing my eyes out that I'd get banned permanently. Arrrggh.
by xsonogall on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:40:59 AM PDT
The language is lessened without it.
by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:01:13 PM PDT
Senator, will you repudiate these efforts to disenfranchise Texas state convention delegates, and demand that these challenges by your supporters cease? And if not, why not?"
by Randall Sherman on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:46:56 AM PDT
The MSM is obsessed with keeping this Jeremiah Wright controversy going. Who cares about hypocrisy and voter disenfranchisement when we have important things like pastors to talk about.
by xsonogall on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:50:26 AM PDT
Can't ask for more.
by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:02:07 PM PDT
that sounds like the type direct question Keith Olbermann is best at!! it just rings with his tone... that would be great if he could get an interview with her..
Chris Rock on Bush: He has fucked up so bad that it's hard for a white man to run for president.
by deutschluz on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:03:16 AM PDT
Olberman has stated several times that he has asked Hillary to come on her show. She has refused every request. She's afraid of Olberman. And yet she goes on Faux Noise to tell her story. It's really sad.
by Katiebegood on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:20:47 AM PDT
The most outrageous lies that can be invented will find believers if a man only tells them with all his might. - Mark Twain
by mkfarkus on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:46:11 AM PDT
Like FOX and Scaiffe.
by midwestvoter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:21:05 AM PDT
"If you're talking about Senate District 13, which has 4,000 delegates, you cannot imagine how many credential disputes you'd have to have to change"
...I mean there's probably no way we can launch that many challenges, we'd have to practically... jeez how many would it take...
"That probably takes 1,000 successful challenges mathematically."
...Crap, I never should've said 1,000. Now she's gonna be asking why we couldn't launch a few thousand challenges. I should've said fifty thousand. Now I'm going to have to be up all night on this...
by Cameron Fredman on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:24:12 AM PDT
Is more likely:
"but we wantsssss it, preciousssss, don't we? Well, what do we needssss to do to getssss it, preciousssss? We musssst cheat. Oh no, but I'm honored to be on sssstage with that candidate. But preciousssss callsssss to usss, don't it. Mussssn't let that nassssty man getsss it. We mussst suppressss votesss then. Disenfranchise voterssss. Yesss preciousss, that'sss what me mussst do."
"We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson
by mayan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:36:43 AM PDT
OWW4O (Old White Woman 4 Obama) OWW40's Unite!
by Cyber Kat on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:58:13 PM PDT
At Barack Obama's site...
http://my.barackobama.com/...
by ayjaymay on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:42:03 AM PDT
right in the neighborhoods! Telephone polls, supermarket billboards, etc. There should be an army of lawyers heading for Texas this very minute, or we're going to see our own party indulge in tactics no better than DeLay's. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!!
by sherlyle on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:49:07 AM PDT
But Obama's website seems to have a more complete list than the Texas Democratic Party's unofficial list.
by tejassaluki on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:15:22 AM PDT
I'm a TX precinct captain. The campaign has asked us to call delegates and alternates to verify support, make sure they know the time, date, and place to show up on Saturday (TOMORROW).
PLEASE HELP ME CALL THEM TODAY!!
It's very easy. They are already Obama supporters. But the caucuses were such a MESS that some don't even know they were elected or if they have to show up, where to go...
I called for an hour last night and got at least 5 delegaetes who probably wouldn't have shown up tomorrow if I hadn't called.
They give you a script and everything. Please spend 30 minutes of your time tonight to help!! http://tx.barackobama.com/...
by newyorknewyork on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:32:23 AM PDT
Please consider putting this link in your diary.
I'm a alternate in SD13 and did not get a call until late last night. Until yesterday there was no contact number on any site for my convention. The girl I talked to today sounded frantic- she said there was a lot of ...um, confusion... from the chair and she was having a hard time even getting lists of numbers to call for our precinct. Meetings have happened that no one went to because no one called anyone to tell them where to meet. Sounds like a real mess.
From her tone of voice I'm thinking we should not be assuming any District is in the bag, no matter how strong we think we are there.
Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken. - Frank Herbert
by goldbirdy on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:09:46 AM PDT
They are monsters, pure and simple and unfit to run anything, much less this great nation. To LIE about challenged on Wednesday, and deliver stacks of them on THURSDAY?
Is this getting any media attention? All I see is how wonderful John McCain is, all over MSNBC today.
Thet are beyond reprehensible. I'm assuming the Obama people are ready. Correct?
by 57andFemale on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:25:41 AM PDT
I'm not a delegate to the Travis County convention tomorrow, but I have been many times in the past. If Obama supporters keep their powder dry and INSIST that the convention play by the rules as they have been laid out, Senator Obama should do just fine. We've taken a lot a crap about our system here, but it's one that's been in use for years, it's one that will work to benefit Obama, IF the rules are followed. These conventions take to pulse of those voters most involved and informed and devoted to the Democratic Party.
The conventions can be easily stolen though. One way, apparently the one the Clinton camp is using, is to challenge as many delegates as you can, have a prolonged and nasty credentials committee fight. This alone won't accomplish the goal, but until the Credentials Committee finishes they're business, NO other convention work can be done. Some will give up and go home. DO NOT LEAVE. Go to the conventions tomorrow knowing that it will take the entire day and maybe into the night. It's a long time, but you can be assured that it will be worth it.
So to recap:
American Idiot
by TMO78759 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:07:59 PM PDT
wide narrow
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