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I think choosing to live in NY rather than NJ shows good judgement.
;-)
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by Trix on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:53:21 AM PDT
I think your potshot demonstrates your lack of said judgment. Fuck Unanue.
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by hyperstation on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:56:12 AM PDT
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:-)
by Trix on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:57:22 AM PDT
:)
by hyperstation on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:58:04 AM PDT
8-9 million New Jerseyans have terrible judgement :)
(NJ native here, just defending my peeps)
Mark McCracken for Pennsylvania's 5th!
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 06:58:28 AM PDT
If I don't see EWR again, that will be fine, but Somerset County, Jockey Hollow, Delaware Water Gap, and many other lovely places in New Jersey are definitely wonderful. Even Atlantic City is kind of fun if you don't have to live there.
Single payer universal healthcare coverage saves money and saves lives.
by freelunch on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:07:52 AM PDT
... Lewis Morris Park (heck, the entire Morris County Park System, rated in the top ten nationally), High Point State Park, the Great Swamp (home of the remarkable Raptor Trust), Lake Hopatcong, Cape May, the Delaware River (okay, we share it w/PA), a piece of the Appalachian Trail, the Pine Barrens, Jenny Jump, the Palisades ...
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who know binary and those who don't. (-5.25, -4.97)
by JBL55 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:12:20 AM PDT
I fed a lot of mosquitos there last summer.
It's beautiful, though the trail markers could be a bit easier to follow. I certainly can see why they considered developing it as an airport in the '60s before folks started to appreciate their environment. Flat, little development in the area, fairly easy to get to, cheap land, not as marshy as the Meadowlands.
The Delaware River Dam is another idea that I'm glad never came to fruition.
by freelunch on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:18:31 AM PDT
I grew up in Bergen County and family still there. Some nice parts, and some not so nice parts. Now they're using Teterboro Airport essentially as the 4th NY metro airport.
Horrible for the people living in Bergen County. From my mom's yard, you can just about see in the plane windows when they come in to land. At least with Newark, there is mostly industial/commercial development around, not housing.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:13:31 AM PDT
I live in Middlesex County just off Route 1 near the Route 1/Route 18 intersection which is directly under one of the main landing patterns. The traffic noise helps drown out the planes. And I live in nice quiet part of town, I kid you not. Right next to a park.
by hyperstation on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:17:08 AM PDT
has smaller planes, of course, but they fly very low over adjacent neighborhoods. This has only gotten really bad in the last 5 years or so - so I'm sure people in Newark's flight paths don't want to hear it!
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:30:03 AM PDT
...but I never did figure out what the middle sex was.
This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)
by GreenSooner on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:58:03 AM PDT
O'Hare has a bunch of nice suburban neighbors who complain about it all the time, but almost all of that area was developed after O'Hare had become an important airport. Bergen County, not so much.
Wasn't Teterboro supposed to be the General Aviation reliever? Are there actually scheduled commercial flights there now or is GA just so big that it has become an annoyance all by itself?
by freelunch on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:23:07 AM PDT
It is a GA reliever. Lots and lots of corporate and charter flights. One such charter crashed through the fence and ran onto 6-lane Route 46 - back in 2006 maybe.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:38:42 AM PDT
Yes, those can become a problem, even if they aren't driving on the roads.
Still, I'm not sure anyone in New Jersey would notice something as mundane as an airplane on the highway the way they drive.
by freelunch on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:44:14 AM PDT
on NJ highways that no one bothers with a second glance!
Actually, I think first learning to drive in northern NJ and later NYC prepared me quite well!
How I miss city driving. Everyone's so damn nice here in PA. I hardly ever hear honking anymore.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:04:24 AM PDT
I love to see the reactions of out-of-town visitors when we drive through the tolls at rush hour, with 12 lanes of buses, vans, cars merging into 2 within about 50 feet (and no accidents).
What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is. ~ Dan Quayle
by CParis on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:44:02 AM PDT
used to cross GWB every day, similar.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:49:56 AM PDT
I'm the designated driver when in Paris or Rome (not UK, though). It's no worse than driving in NYC or the weird jughandles & rotaries all over New Jersey
by CParis on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:04:39 AM PDT
roundabouts at high speed, when I don't know exactly where the hell I'm going.
I wasn't prepared for that at all.
I actually asked the native I was visiting if the posted speeds were a minimum or something. Because they all drove so fast (and I'm a speeder). He said no, those are the speed limits but no one follows them.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:11:06 AM PDT
I can't make the switch easily. Can't drive in Jamaica, Barbados, etc either.
by CParis on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:22:26 AM PDT
we worked it out so that the passengers would call out before a turn "left - inside lane" or "right - outside" so that whoever was driving would remain in the correct lane through the turn.
by Glacial Erratic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:33:33 AM PDT
Making my first visit there in May. Please tell me that it's a nice, efficient, user-friendly airport.
The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin
by Korkenzieher on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:26:45 AM PDT
compared to JFK or--oh my god please never again-- LaGuardia it's a dream.
by hyperstation on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:38:19 AM PDT
The Port Authority runs four or five airports and, in many ways, Newark is the least inconvenient of the three major commercial hubs. Unfortunately, the FAA is pursuing a vendetta against New York, so any lightning strike within 500 miles of the NYC area will screw up airport traffic for six hours.
by freelunch on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:41:09 AM PDT
by CParis on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:44:44 AM PDT
Sorry, I'm an AA frequent flyer, since I live relatively close to their O'Hare hub.
by Korkenzieher on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:53:52 AM PDT
As a NY transplant, I had the same attitude. I could not envision living in NJ. But after 22 years in the Princeton area, I've become one of its biggest boosters. Once you leave the NJ Turnpike, it's a whole other state of mind. Besides, it's consistently had two Democratic Senators for well over 20 years (more than you can say for NY State; D'amato was not succeeded by Schumer until '98 I think)
by Corey J Langer on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:36:15 AM PDT
...he can't pick Crazy Jack Davis as his 2012 running mate if they're both from New York.
The underest dog is just as good as I am, and I'm just as good as the toppest dog. - Jimmie Rodgers
by GreenCA on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:37:04 AM PDT
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