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During my cognitive years I only saw my great-grandmother once. It got me thinking about her again.
by Pav on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:51:43 PM PDT
lived until I was in middle school. She was 96 when she died. My maternal grandfather (her son) is now 87, and I believe one among 10 living out of her 12 total offspring. I hope I got those longevity genes in the DNA crapshoot.
I had other great-grandparents alive when I was born, but they were my paternal grandmother's adopted parents. No DNA lottery there.
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by Praxxus on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:54:54 PM PDT
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She lived in Thunder Bay, Canada. She always called me sugar plum but I hated it. Guess I really wasn't the name. My Mom used to call me Charlie when I was a kid. My name is Christie and I am a girl. ??
Funny, where these nicknames come from. My daughter is Bootchey (Boo-Chee). When she was little, one buttcheek would always peek out from her diaper/underwear so we called her little buttcheek (privately)..that devolved to Bootchey. We also called her Hamchuck (privately) from The Green Berets because she had five rolls of fat from her groin to knee and it just sounded right. The doctors didn't announce Boy or Girl when they pulled her out...they had to check first, her thighs were that large. LOL. Gawd it was so cute. She will be a teenage soon so now publicly she is her name or honey, sweetie ect. Don't think she would appreciate being called 'little buttcheek'.
Y'all have a good night!
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by CWalter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:05:36 PM PDT
...the weird quiet lady on the block.
[?] sugar plum Charlie ...yer a hOOt.
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by Orj ozeppi on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:15:58 PM PDT
My Mom says she just liked it but it had to come from somewhere. Was there a famous Charlie from the early 70's? A female Charlie?
by CWalter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:20:08 PM PDT
there WAS a female Charlie famous in the 70's!! It was an advertisement for a perfume, and this woman HAD. IT. ALL. She was a career woman, (gasp! Career? in the 70's?) AND she partied all night with very handsome men!
http://www.mimifroufrou.com/...
by riesgo on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 01:33:31 AM PDT
Can't stand the way some women get brainwashed into all that perfume-and-fashion consumer bullshit. And bullshit is what it is.
"Lies return." - African proverb
by Night Train on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 05:16:07 AM PDT
boy did I disappoint...
LOL
by CWalter on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 07:38:34 AM PDT
Kind of scary...Diabetes on both sides, blindness on both sides, heart disease on one side (the Grandma I am build like), dementia on one side, cancer on both. I guess nobody gets out of the genetic lottery unscathed. Thinking about it won't change it...but isn't knowledge power?
I would like to do a medical family tree but my Grandparents generation is reticent about sharing the mental health issues, which is what I am curious about the most.
by CWalter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:18:18 PM PDT
we are the results of that DNA lottery. :)
Freedom is in the fight.
by Troubadour on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 12:30:15 AM PDT
and was a longshoreman. We got along very well because he saw dozens of the games played by the famous Baltimore Orioles of the 1890s and I loved to hear about them. He went to St Annes and in 1894, so did 7 men who became honored in baseball's Hall of Fame. GGD became a good friend of Willie Keeler and not only saw him at church but at The Diamond, a sports bar established by John McGraw and Wilbert Robinson. My GGM, his wife, was born in Ireland and I knew her well but she prededed him in death. Both GGPs on my father's side were alive when I was little but I seldom saw them. He was a worker on the steam packets that went between Baltimore and Norfolk.
by daliscar on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 06:46:04 AM PDT
and I knew 4 of 8!!!
My grandma Smith lived to 106, outliving all three sons. My grandpa Armstrong passed away at 96.
My maternal grandmother remarried at the age of 83, and she and my step-grandfather just celebrated their tenth anniversary!
Naam!! Tunaweza!!
by bogbud on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:11:23 PM PDT
My great grandmother lived to just shy of her 102nd. She was peeved that Willard Scott never wished her a happy birthday but she proudly showed off the letter she got from President Clinton on her 100th.
Ignorance can be solved with a book; stupidity is forever.
by Mber on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 10:16:53 PM PDT
He lived from 1865-1959. Have a handwritten letter from him to me dated 1958 and his old money wallet. We also have a 250-page typed manuscript he dictated to his daughter regarding his lifetime memories and his signed tickets to the 1893 Chicago Columbian Exposition. Transportation-wise, the manuscript covers horse-drawn buggies to jet aircraft and three wars. Oftentimes I get the letter or manuscript out and read them for inspiration.
Recently visited the Montana ranch of my maternal grandmother's parents. Was able to meet the people who own it now, have dinner with them and see the old original farmhouse. The ranch still has some wagon train ruts from a trail that paralleled the front range of the Rockies. When I stood looking out at the ranch, many aspects of my life just seemed to become much clearer. Wish I would have seen it at a much younger age.
Know nothing at all about my paternal grandparents or their ancestors, but that story is for another place and time.
Exploring your ancestors tells you a great deal about America.
There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. - Sun Tzu
by OHeyeO on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:13:41 PM PDT
Not a Cent to those who won't fight torture.
by not a cent on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 12:13:36 AM PDT
...was alive when I was born. I didn't know her very well--I only have vague memories of her.
My son's lucky, because he has 4 great grandparents at the moment (and will for a while, hopefully, despite my grandfather's refusal to remember he's in his 80s now). In fact, since my son was born last year my wife and I are trying to get all the family history we can. It's lots of fun.
"Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight. You've got to kick at the darkness until it bleeds daylight." --Bruce Cockburn, "Lovers In A Dangerous
by AustinCynic on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 06:18:43 AM PDT
Dad's side... I don't know that either of grandma's parents were alive. But I'm just not sure. Could well have been--I've got that family's bible and the folks who died of natural causes were all in their 80s. I'll have to ask Dad (who's in his mid 70s and traveling all over the world). His dad's mom died young of some disease. His grandfather I met when I was five--we went to see him because he was going to die (refused to have prostate surgery...). He lived another year, I believe.
Mom's side... both on the maternal side lived to push 90. My great-grandmother died when I was in college. She loomed large in the family.... On the paternal side... I believe both died young--but have no details. My biological grandfather went into a TB sanitarium when my mother was just two--and my grandmother never spoke of him; even though she remarried later, I suspect it was just too painful for her. However, I remember hearing from my mother that he'd been an orphan.
So at least three. Maybe as many as five.
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by ogre on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 11:51:35 PM PDT
but on Dad's side, that wasn't all that surprising, because he was fairly a late baby. In fact, his father--my grandfather--had died before I was born, and my grandmother, his mother, was already 64 when I was born (and lived to 91!). Dad was the second-youngest of six. There are 21 cousins on that side of the family, and only four out of the other 20 are younger than me (and two of the four are my siblings!).
Since Nana made it to 91, she lived long enough to see a number of great-grandchildren (not from me, though, I didn't spawn until 4 years after that :-)).
Funnily enough, on that side, my great-grandfather, my grandfather's father, died quite young, and my great-grandmother remarried...and my step-great-grandfather I did know. He died when I was 10-ish and he was something like 95 at the time :-).
My mother never knew her own paternal grandparents. Her maternal grandparents died when she was a teenager.
My oldest daughter will be able to reply 2-out-of-8, and my youngest daughter 1-of-8. My ex-wife's paternal grandmother is still alive. My maternal grandmother actually watched Brigid, my oldest, two days a week for the first almost-two years of her life. Gram died then, but even though Brigid was so young when Gram died, she still remembers her, which is nice :-).
You bet your ass I'm bitter. And, yes, middle-america 'values' voters, you *have* been duped. Obama's right. And I'm bitter as hell.
by ChurchofBruce on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 12:43:42 AM PDT
One of my great-grandmothers lived until 1965, four years after I was born. I was in the Philadelphia suburbs and she was in Chicago, so I never met her. She died at 87.
Fortunately, before she passed on she wrote -- in longhand -- the story of her early years in America, from her family's arrival from Ireland (against the wishes of her father, who had come to the U.S. on his own, had come to hate it, and had planned to return to Ireland before the rest of his family surprised him by showing up in Chicago to join him) until her father died in 1891. It's a harrowing tale of poverty and domestic cruelty in the Bridgeport section of Chicago, where many Irish immigrants settled when they came here in waves throughout the middle and late 1800s. I've got a photocopy of it (an aunt has the original), and it's an amazing first-hand account of just how hard life was for some of our forefathers (and mothers).
Supposedly, she continued the story beyond the part that I own, including her eventual marriage (to one of my great-grandfathers, who died in 1918) and beyond, but the rest of the manuscript seems to be lost.
I've checked most of the dates and events she described against more objective sources, such as census, Chicago Archdiocesan and immigration records, and virtually everything is confirmed.
by und83 on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 01:34:50 AM PDT
I think I have photos of my father's great-grandparents, but even his own parents were gone by the 1970s.
by Creosote on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 02:38:32 AM PDT
And I don't remember my grandfathers. One died when I was only a few months old, the other when I was 2, so I wasn't old enough to remember them.
It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
by A Citizen on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 07:27:18 AM PDT
wide narrow
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