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by Oreo on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:43:27 AM PDT
phone banked sunday(never done that before in my life, although I have worked as a telemarketer though for quick cash)
I have my AlObama t-shirt ready to wear but I cannot put it on untill this thing is in the bag. Afraid of jinxes and such.
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." --Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002-GWB
by meatwad420 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:50:39 AM PDT
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daughter reports that Indiana has Obama fever----Obama bumper stickers all over the place, said she saw multiple people walking around Sunday in full Obama gear. Poll numbers are in his favor there also. In the meantime, please Texas and Ohio!
by dotster on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:56:37 AM PDT
everyone that I talk to is at the very least considering Obama. Amazing, in this our very republican state.
"an eye for an eye leaves all of us blind" -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
by bluestatemeant on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:59:31 AM PDT
Friday night with some Obamicans at a Obama Rally. The husband is much more excited than we are and that is saying a lot. As he asked, "I am clergy. How can I NOT vote for someone with that message?" Indeed.
Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. Abraham Lincoln
by melthewriter on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:25:33 AM PDT
what city this rally was in?
just curious.
by bluestatemeant on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:31:28 AM PDT
by melthewriter on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:35:10 AM PDT
He got hit with a 2x4, after Brokaw announced that Barack has 50 superdelegates waiting in the wings to announce commitments after Tuesday's voting.
Watch that video Terry.
Obama-Feingold '08
by XOVER on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:37:58 AM PDT
It would not surprise me in the least if Clinton does not pull out mammoth wins today, that more than 50 superdelegates endorse Obama, putting pressure on her to drop out. I would expect an endorsement from Richardson, possibly Dodd and Biden as well. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore weighed in.
Unless she wins massively, she will still be behind. Which means she will still have her finger (or Penn's finger) on the nuclear button for this campaign. This would not only damage Obama, but Clinton as well. It would also damage the Democratic brand.
Superdelegates are Democrats. They are likely to continue to be Democrats. Should Clinton decide to leave the party to mount an independent run, they will not follow her.
They want what's best for the party. Give the tone of the campaign (Clinton and co. pushing Rezko on the press corps again today), what's best for the party is for this to be over.
Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain.
by Jen K in FLA on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:59:31 AM PDT
Are you suggesting that Penn-slime will try to throw the race to his crony McCain-slime by having HRC pull a Lieberman?
I see no indication that HRC would go Lieberman on us.
by MD patriot on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:05:52 AM PDT
Nothing, but nothing would surprise me.
by Jen K in FLA on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:10:47 AM PDT
...she is not likely to get much traction. But probably enough to do a "Nader" on the Obama campaign. However: such a move will make her 1000% more hated than she already is.
Is Hillary Clinton willing to go down in history as the second Ralph Nader, the one who threw the election to McCain and gave us at least four more years of Bush-shit? Is she so egomaniacal that she would choose infamy over a graceful exit in 2008 and the possibility of other campaigns in the future? Very, very good question.
McCain = Death. "This time it's too risky NOT to change." -- Obama
by Pris from LA on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:43:37 AM PDT
last week.
Connecticut Local Politics: Our Primaries Are Better Than Yours!
by TheKickingDonkey on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:19:53 AM PDT
either OH or TX for it to "feel right." If he does, it'll all fall into place. If he doesn't, the moral momentum will falter.
ugh!
All extremists are irrational and should be exposed
by SeanF on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:32:24 AM PDT
She has unfortunately won the media narrative this past week. Even though Obama losing in single digits in both states would keep him with a substantial delegate lead (not including Brokaw's 50 supers) she has made it such that he needs to win Texas to be able to drop endorsements on her tomorrow and end it.
On the other hand, the polling and press coverage for the last day or so has significantly raised expectations of her in Ohio so there is some opportunity there.
In short, I'm nervous and must keep rambling.
Anyone up for a game of basketball? :)
by neonineten on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:59:36 AM PDT
yesterday on MSNBC they said that she has a lot of people rooting for her & we are too. Sure, they love all this bickering. What can McCain do for their ratings??? Let's face it, Barack plays well and look how many gafes HRC has made that are terrific fill-ins. MSM has been going overboard trying to help HRC stay in this. Voters in Ohio, Texas, RI & Vermont please deliver victory tonight!!!! We need to win the White House in November. All the Reps are saying that they don't want to run against Barack. Let's GOTV for OBAMA!!!
by ijarne on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:35:43 AM PDT
My gut tells me Texas is possible. I am losing hope for OH for some reason.
Anyone else think he does have a very good chance at Texas but losing some hope for OH? I say this because Hillary is speaking at 7:30. Something tells me she is speaking before RI even closes their polls. And she will not win VT. So that makes thinks HRC Internal polling numbers for OH are so good, she is sure she will win there but not sure about TX.
Why else speak so early? Her internals must be damn good for Ohio.
The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at negative campaigns, they're not so good at governing- Barack Obama
by wishingwell on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:41:18 PM PDT
and let history happen! I for one am on pins and needles, and can hardly do any work today!
=)
by SeanF on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:52:51 PM PDT
Proud to be everything the Right Wing hates!
by Wild Starchild on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:03:51 PM PDT
Doesn't John McCain look tired?
by SciVo on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 04:44:49 PM PDT
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/...
Richardon basically has, since he said he would support whomever had more pledged delegates after tonight. Go Obama!
by Cicero7 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:28:56 AM PDT
n/t
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia".
by yellowdog on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:30:10 AM PDT
.....for her to withdraw. She still has that attitude of entitlement and inevitability to the presidency. The longer that she continues this farce the more that she's playing into the hands of the Repugs comes November.
by calibpatriot on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:06:46 PM PDT
Times they are a-changing! :)
Never give up! Never surrender!
by oscarsmom on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:48:04 AM PDT
by bluestatemeant on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:57:43 AM PDT
whole state was Hillary's. Wheeeeee!!!!!!
by venatrix on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:01:08 AM PDT
showed Obama+15 or something crazy like that.
And don't undercount the mobile power of Illinoisans coming next door to aid the ground game there if needed.
I don't think this will matter, but IF Hillary drags this out to and past Pennsylvania, the two biggest states left on the calendar will be the next chance to vote: North Carolina and Indiana on May 6, comprising 187 of the remaining 404 pledged delegates.
This is just one of the many, many problems with any Hillary-wins scenarios.
3 June 2008: I join the Democratic Party
by Rorgg on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:06:26 AM PDT
It was Obama 40% and Clinton 25%. Here's a quote from the link:
The Obama-Clinton poll segment of the poll was the first one conducted on the bitterly contested presidential race that could find Indiana front stage center leading into the May 6 primary. Obama had huge leads among younger voters (42-16 percent), males (40-26 percent), females (39-23 percent), African-Americans (68-3 percent) and white voters (34-30 percent). "White females are the only demographic breakdown in which Hillary Clinton leads," said Davis, "and that is a narrow 31-29 percent." The 36 percent undecideds are high, but HPI Publisher Brian A. Howey reminded the briefing at the Barnes & Thornburg Auditorium this morning that U.S. Evan Bayh has endorsed Clinton and many Democrats hope he is on the national ticket. "The primary is still 11 weeks away and that size of undecideds is typical," said Davis.
from link (poll was conducted Feb. 17/18)
Don't tell me you're a patriot. Let me find it out for myself.
by indybend on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:15:37 AM PDT
with Obama 40%, Clinton 25%.
There's a southern IN newspaper poll (voluntary, so not 'scientific') that asks this:
Would you be more likely to vote for a Democrat for president if Evan Bayh were his/her running mate?
Yes - 39% No - 53% Maybe- 8%
This is a town that just booted out the GOP last fall & has the first Dem mayor in ages. Also went for Brad Ellsworth (D) in the last Rep. election.
I sure hope it doesn't come down to IN being a player, but if it does I think Obama GOTV could swoop in and make a huge difference.
"Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.
by 417els on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:54:38 AM PDT
to help with doorknocking, GOTV, etc...
Let us devote to unselfishness the frenzy we once gave gold and underpants. - Kurt Vonnegut
by Czar Chasm on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:24:30 AM PDT
...so we're about as liberal as the state gets. The only signs I've seen in any yards so far are for the O-man. Pretty sparse thus far. Starting to see a number of Obama bumber stickers. Been seeing Hillary stickers for 6 months. Both are still pretty rare however.
by doin it for the shorties on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:35:59 AM PDT
I'm in South Bend, and the rumor among local dems is that Barack will be here on Dyngus Day...(Easter Monday). Remember, we unseated three republicans last year, in Indiana!
by scotslass on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:51:40 AM PDT
but i wonder where any rally could be held. What is big enough, outside of Notre Dame (where I understand that no pro-choice Democrat can appear)?
by indybend on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 05:59:46 PM PDT
I prayed a long and sincere prayer that the Lord see fit to begin the healing of our nation and the begininng of fair and compassionate government.
Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King
by BlackBox on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:04:10 AM PDT
and I'm an agnostic.
by yellowdog on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:15:53 AM PDT
by BlackBox on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:16:52 AM PDT
the America I want to live in. Thanks to you both.
by Cather on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:47:30 AM PDT
by entropiccanuck on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:29:51 AM PDT
by rapcetera on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:01:47 AM PDT
Yes we can, for ... we are one.
by abarefootboy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:15:51 AM PDT
i'm not a believer, myself, but i think this post expresses the yearning i think so many people have for a new kind of politics and a new kind of government that aspires, at least, to transcend partisanship and seeks to speak to our better angels, and at least aspires to a politics of higher values
by lawyerbyday on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:21:36 AM PDT
you don't have to pray. You can live a good life and be an example of what prayer can do for the multitudes.
by BlackBox on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:35:54 AM PDT
in that we share a common faith in believing we can do better and we have the hope to build a better country. When we say that and we join our thoughts together for a good and positive outcome for our future, we are in fact, praying.
Prayer to me does not equate with religion or belief in God. It has to do with joining our thoughts and spirit together to hope for Good and Truth and Positive outcomes and for Peace and Justice for all.
by wishingwell on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:46:12 PM PDT
and you said it beautifully!
by BlackBox on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:25:20 PM PDT
i pray for a better tomorrow, and that somehow these two major factions in the democratic party can realize their own strengths and weaknesses and pull this thing together immediately; so let it be written, so let it be done; and the people said "Amen!"
by lawyerbyday on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 08:37:20 AM PDT
That is a lovely, soothing thing to hear.
John McCain: Vowing to connect real leaders with real bowels
by chicago minx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:47:28 PM PDT
I'm wearing my Obama shirt right now, should I change?
For me a jinx would be NOT wearing it.
http://www.cafepress.com/...
by nisleib on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:06:37 AM PDT
Do not take it off, jinxes only apply to those who are afraid of jinxes. If you are confident it it then plz keep it on.
Yet I am not afraid to walk under a ladder or cross the path of a black cat. Jinxes are mysterious, like the free market.
by meatwad420 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:09:16 AM PDT
my office has a fairly strict "no nudity" policy.
by nisleib on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:14:07 AM PDT
so does mine.
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
by Same As It Ever Was on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:19:16 AM PDT
but this being Austin the summer is another story.
Does anyone know if I have to change out of my Obama shirt before the precint convention? Are there rules relating to allowable clothing?
by nisleib on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:21:47 AM PDT
by venatrix on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:30:39 AM PDT
Isn't there a rule that you can't do political advertising within 50 feet (yards?) of a polling place?
I will layer, just to be safe.
by nisleib on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:32:25 AM PDT
I was also at the caucuses in Iowa (as an observer), and they were handing out stickers for us to wear. In caucuses, you're allowed to persuade people to your side, so there's no requirement to conceal your affiliation.
Texas may be different; I can only speak for Iowa.
by Caesura on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:42:30 AM PDT
I am from MN and if you think our caucuses are undemocratic I have a lake to introduce you to.
by edgeways on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:06:11 AM PDT
That's kind of the purpose of a caucus, really. However, in my experience, very few people ever change their minds. At mine, here in Washington, we considered switching some of our delegates to undecided, with the idea that undecideds get lots of attention at county/state conventions. We thought that the undecideds might be able to keep some of Edwards' and Kucinich's progressive issues at the forefront. However, in the end no one was willing to switch away from their candidate.
by sja on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:09:09 AM PDT
You can't have any visible campaign gear within 100 feet of the polling location until voting has been completed. Wear a jacket or sweater over your t-shirt.
C'mon Texas!
No distractions. Not this time.
by royce on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:46:10 AM PDT
by swtexas on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:47:14 AM PDT
When I caucused here in Jan for Obama I was given Obama stickers as soon as I walked in. Unfortunately the old ladies at the door were wearing Hillary shirts and pins. It was a mess, the Hill supporters at the door were IMO trying to confuse Obama sup. as much as possible. 10 people or more were turned away because they were late. Please texans, get there early.
by Wild Starchild on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:14:04 PM PDT
One usually publicly declares support at a caucus, hence, campaign swag is allowed.
Tikkun Olam...Obama '08
by tethys on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:36:40 PM PDT
"We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson
by mayan on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:20:05 AM PDT
(in SC) there were at least a dozen Hillary yard signs all the way from the turn off to the polling place (I didn't notice how many feet) and not an Obama sign anywhere.
But lots of people were smiling and everyone looked happy. That told me everything--Obama voters are smilers.
The rest of that story is history.
Are they smiling in Texas today? How about Ohio? RI? I know they are smiling in Vermont!
Somebody told Obama not to smile. I think the idea was he must look very serious--three o'clock in the morning serious.
Watch for that smile to break out tonight!
Be a hope monger.
by kpardue on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:14:36 AM PDT
by TheNumbersGuy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:30:34 PM PDT
it appears your office and mine are repressing the expression of our body to be free of garments..LOL>...Heeheheee..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wishingwell on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:47:18 PM PDT
and I like pull-off clothing!
Which reminds me, I need to bring some cleaning supplies to work!)
by nisleib on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 02:07:37 PM PDT
The Union should have surrendered to the Confederacy right before Gettysburg, the United States to the Japanese right before the Battle of Midway and the Red Sox should have thrown in the towel after they were down three games to none to the Yankees in the 2004 AL Championship Seres?
Obama is starting to reveal his shortcomings. As Democrats, let's be certain that he's the right guy. I've always had my doubts, at least at this stage of his career. It's in our interests to let the process play out.
by Frank Cocozzelli on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:27:10 AM PDT
for votes to be cancelled...
I think all most of us want would be for Hillary Clinton to stop saying things like alluding to her OR McCain making a better Pres than Obama.
She's welcome to stay in the race as long as she likes, but how remembering that she's part of the same party as Obama for a change, capiche?
I guess everyone's got their own blog now.
by zonk on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:31:33 AM PDT
by BlackBox on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:36:29 AM PDT
The Yellow Rose of Texas Beats the Belle of Tennessee
I keep singing that hoping for good Texas outcome.
Being a Penn State alum and suffering defeats at Ohio State a few times: I am no stranger to Losing in Ohio. LOL! But I would rather not have that happen electorally for Democrats or Obama.
The one thing we know about the McCain campaign...is that they're very good at n
