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please let's make sure this goes as smoothly as possible. if you can resolve issues that come up - such as the one i detailed here - then do it. your field directors are going to be very busy today so we have to empower ourselves and try to make sure things run correctly.
John Cornyn is an asshole with shoes. Support Rick Noriega!
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:02:58 AM PDT
We need to remain vigilant in the primaries and use them as a dress rehearsal for the GE. We cannot wait until the morning after the election to start checking out irregularities, misinformation, intimidation, long lines, faulty machines, the whole nine yards.
Thanks for the Diary Tipped and Rec'd.
"Cynicism is a sorry wisdom." - Barack Obama
by BlueGenes on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:43:35 AM PDT
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i'll be an election judge in the fall. that, IMO, is the best way to ensure my precinct election is held fairly and by the rules.
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:44:22 AM PDT
let's keep track of ALL election problems - Obama's, Clinton's & I'll even say the GOPers. and let's be careful about making accusations till we have proof. we all know there are real problems with the election process and the whole system needs to be fixed.
some of the problems will be malicious & some from a dysfuntional, antiquated system.
the more balanced and documented we report it, the less likely people will be able to dismiss it as "sour grapes", hysteria, or partisan politics.
well done, anna.
Texas Kaos Take Back Texas
Bush, What Price Did You Pay?
by krazypuppy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:00:34 AM PDT
this diary!
by krazypuppy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:00:59 AM PDT
on Fire Station 48 in San Antonio, that I discussed here and here.
After about 45 calls all over the place, waiting for calls back, and generally sticking with it, the asst. chief called me back with an entirely different attitude than he had last night. One of my phone calls to somebody lit a fire; and he was not only willing to remove the trucks from all the bays, but offered to have chairs brought in especially for the precinct convention. So, thanks to Chief Jenkins of the SAFD, who I owe a pecan pie now.
by dksbook on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:09:38 PM PDT
Thank you, Chief Jenkins, and all who helped you see the light, so to speak.
Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.
by boadicea on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:14:53 PM PDT
Democrats are taking charge and it's such a damn fine thing to see.
thanks for all the work, heart and sweat you and so many others have given. makes me proud to be in the same political party with so many fine people willing to work for the changes we need in the party and the nation.
Onward!
by NMRed on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:49:42 PM PDT
wish I had more HR available to hide the bashing, but I think I used them all on the other threads
I can haz sound economic policy?
by Isara on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 02:40:47 PM PDT
People are anxious. We just need to keep things on topic here.
by boadicea on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 02:42:28 PM PDT
i'm waiting for someone to drop clinton's line in here, too. i want to be fair, but nobody has given me the info yet.
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:01:14 AM PDT
be a shame (& surprise) if the Clinton camp wasn't on top of this.
but it was a general comment to anyone who out there who spots a problem that misleads Clinton/Dem voters.
by krazypuppy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:34:43 AM PDT
People should also be calling Election Protection at 1-866-OUR-VOTE (1-866-687-8683). Perhaps update the diary?
"There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama
by DC Pol Sci on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:45:07 AM PDT
By correcting mistakes than policing crimes, but this movement achieves both and only good can come of it.
---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...
by TooFolkGR on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:09:53 AM PDT
Now I have to go modify my "tip" comment to anna! Keep it clean out there!
----- _The Flow of FISA: video clips | GroundZero
by rhfactor on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:21:04 AM PDT
I drove people to the polls on GE day in 2004. A lot of the people I met in SEFW said that TCDP did more harm than good, though I volunteered there about three days a week and didn't personally see any kind of problem. I bet most of the people I knew are going for Hillary, but they still need to know if cr*p is going on in SE Fort Worth. Mark Veasey's office would probably be mighty interested too. Best of luck, Anna!
by northsylvania on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:51:06 AM PDT
i actually have veasey's number and i'm going to call him right away. thank you!
as to TCDP, i don't think they have the bodies to help. but team obama does have drivers and precinct captains and lawyers and all that jazz, so people will certainly get driven to their locations if need be.
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:56:08 AM PDT
You're doing heroic work.
by northsylvania on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:29:15 PM PDT
that having good election judges is the best way to keep it honest.
Particularly provisional ballot and touch screen judges.
McCain is a Chode.
by dnamj on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:31:08 AM PDT
n/t
3 June 2008: I join the Democratic Party
by Rorgg on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:52:23 AM PDT
#3: defend network neutrality; #2: defend electoral integrity; #1: defend ecosystemic sustainability.
by ivote2004 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:44:17 PM PDT
Like, OH Primary, etc. This is a good record for the FUTURE, too, so make it more findable, please!
by martini on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:54:23 AM PDT
hey thanks for adding those!
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:00:17 AM PDT
"TX primary" isn't good either, but I'm not allowed to delete tags.
Appropriate tags have been added.
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by sardonyx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:08:04 AM PDT
let me know and i'll correct/adjust as needed.
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:10:36 AM PDT
aren't good. It's better to have separate state names and the word "primaries"—those are all in the list.
If it were me, I'd delete "TX primary", "VT primary", "OH primary", and "RI primary". (And I'm a recovering Tag Librarian.)
by sardonyx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:39:53 AM PDT
We don't have election problems here. Old school balloting, on paper, run by folks you know. We have no problems. :-)
Crucial Taunt - we really wail!
by markhaverty on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:05:41 AM PDT
by anna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:09:11 AM PDT
I received conflicting voting place information via robo-calls last night. Thankfully, it's no big deal to drive to either (we actually drove to the wrong one first).
One of the confusing things for first-time primary voters in Vermont is that, even though there is no party registration in the state, you must choose which party you are voting for in the primary when you pick up your paper ballot. (Presidential primaries only)
This party selection is *recorded* by the town clerks office and can be seen (requested) by anyone:
Presidential Primary and Presidential Election For the Presidential Primary ONLY (in March of each presidential election year) each voter must declare or request the ballot of one major party, and this request is recorded on the checklist. This is only a recordation of the voter's request for this one primary and is not a declaration of party affiliation. The checklist for the Presidential Primary with the party recordation is a public record and can be requested from the town clerk.
Presidential Primary and Presidential Election
For the Presidential Primary ONLY (in March of each presidential election year) each voter must declare or request the ballot of one major party, and this request is recorded on the checklist. This is only a recordation of the voter's request for this one primary and is not a declaration of party affiliation. The checklist for the Presidential Primary with the party recordation is a public record and can be requested from the town clerk.
It's one law I'd like to see changed here.
A million people can call the mountains a fiction, yet it need not trouble you as you stand atop them. - Randall Munroe xkcd
by Mountain Don on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:56:42 AM PDT
available to the public
I fail to see the big deal here.
Though this is coming from a former field organizer who needed those voter lists in order to do my job!
01-20-09: THE END OF AN ERROR
by kimoconnor on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:13:41 AM PDT
Parties' GOTV efforts, unfairly disadvantaging Candidates running as Independents?
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by ben masel on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:50:34 PM PDT
their "members" are and who is voting in their Primary. A Primary is a completely different animal from a general election.
In 2000, a criminal became President. In 2004, we failed to remove him.American Democracy, 1787-2004, RIP
by davewill on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:22:42 AM PDT
As a matter of fact, VT town political party chairs will be picking up the checklists over the next few days, so they can determine who is allowed to vote in the state delegate selection caucuses later this month. People who voted in another party's primary are not allowed to vote at the town caucus. This prevents, or example, a bunch of Republicans packing Democratic caucuses and voting Republicans as delegates to the state Democratic convention ... and vice versa, ditto for the Progressives and the Liberty Union party.
Dump Steny Hoyer
by mataliandy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 04:13:40 PM PDT
Good morning annatopia! please sweep Texas today.
That is all. :)
by rhfactor on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:18:21 AM PDT
... I must now clarify. When I said sweep Texas, I obviously meant "sweep it clean". And may the best candidate win... whoever he may be.
by rhfactor on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:25:39 AM PDT
Thanks.
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for thou art crunchy and good with ketchup.
by Pariah Dog on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 08:57:17 AM PDT
a few weeks ago in Maine: Wy wife was waiting in the voter registration line due to a mix up with her registration card. The line was extremely long due to the large number of first time voters showing up. The caucus was supposed to start at 1:00 but it was delayed to let everyone register. At one point, one of the election officials tried to say that the registration line would close at 2:00 no matter how many people were still in line.
I do not know which candidate this particular official supported, but Obama's people had some lawyers there and told the official that this would not be allowed, and registration would continue until everyone who wanted to cast a vote had the opportunity to do so.
We had a record turnout and Obama won approximately 2-1.
It's very important that people report suspicious incidents, because as much as it blows my mind, there are still many people in a democratic country within the Democratic party who would like to suppress the vote.
"The meek shall inherit nothing" - F. Zappa
by cometman on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:11:23 AM PDT
is it's often out of a combo of ignorance and the sudden acquisition of a little authority. Goes to people's heads, especially if there's not much in the head to begin with!
If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.
by Tamar on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:35:02 AM PDT
The election official I mentioned may have just been simply lazy for all I know.
But whether it's due to laziness or partisanship, trying to keep people from exercising their right to vote has no place in a democracy.
by cometman on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 09:58:24 AM PDT
At UVA, we called it the "Football Usher Syndrome." The ushers were usually older folks picking up a few bucks to police the aisles, and while they knew their marching orders, they typically had zero appreciation for broader objectives, like don't alienate people unnecessarily. The same ushers worked Commencement, and the VP for Student Affairs used to have my wife and me freelance in the VIP area, to step in when the ushers were making poor decisions. One year, I was told that Senator Byrd was in attendance to see a great-grandson graduate. Sure enough, I spied an usher speaking heatedly with an incredibly dapper, diminutive, older gentleman. I stepped in, and he asked me in the politest possible manner if there was any chance he and his relatives could move up into a large group of open seats. I said, "Of course!"
So while that official in Maine could have been a Clinton supporter trying to game the system, my guess is he or she was simply hearing this internal voice growing ever louder, saying Must begin at 1! Must begin at 1!. Too loud to consider that enabling everyone to caucus just might be a tad more important than starting on time.
by deminva on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:50:25 AM PDT
Often, "the sudden acquisition of a little authority" (emphasis on "little"), is accompanied by no real experience and very little training, and no mentors.
Novices will be very diligent in following every rule, until they come to an understanding of how things work, and which rules are the most important ones. Is it more important to stop at the appointed time, or more important to allow everyone an opportunity to do what they are trying to do? In an election, for example, it can be a little tricky. You have to designate who was last in line at the time the poll closed, but close on time except for those who are waiting. New election judges might not get that exactly right. There may be similar concerns over voter registration deadlines.
In our precinct, it is always a scramble just to get a warm body to show up and work an election. Often, the election judge and/or the pollworkers are novices. They are swamped with materials and instructions, given a little video training, and left largely to their own devices. That's who is running our election. Not a criminal mastermind.
The frequent suggestions of criminal intent do not match my experience, although it may be happening somewhere else. What I see is confusion, inexperience, lack of adequate staffing, occasional shortage of equipment or supplies, equipment malfunctions, combined with voters who fail to get themselves registered at their correct address and who show up for voting at the wrong precincts because they assumed it would be where it was last time and did not check. In other words, a typical day. As Will Rogers put it, "I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat."
As far as there not being "much in their heads to begin with", I think that the process is more at fault than the person. Quality assurance starts with and depends upon a repeatable process. If a problem happens once, then it is the responsibility of those maintaining that process to determine the cause of the problem and change to process to prevent the recurrence. It's always easy to point a finger at some individual later, and say it's all their fault. But, why were there no checks and balances to ensure that one person's fault could not create a huge problem?
by DFWmom on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:51:02 PM PDT
ROCKS!
by YucatanMan on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 11:49:45 AM PDT
Excellent job - all of you!
Another example of the "internets" at its finest.
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by IL dac on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:32:55 PM PDT
Besides getting the right people in office, this is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE we face. We can't fix FISA, global warming, or anything else until we fix our elections. THe more I read, the more I realize this system isn't just cracked, it's nearly completely broken.
I hope you'll join one of the many voting integrity groups or at least send some money their way.
And let your Representatives know this is a major issue for you.
By the way - Obama has written several bills relating to election protection. Search his bills via http://thomas.loc.gov.
by BetterTogether on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:48:14 PM PDT
America: Show your support for it with more than jingoistic slogans or leave it.
by CJB on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:48:59 PM PDT
Keep up the great work--and everybody, if you see or can confirm something not quite kosher, let the hotlines know--and please, let Anna know, too!
"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."--Miguel De Santa Anna
by GainesT1958 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:29:47 PM PDT
wide narrow
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