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If neither candidate wins an outright majority of the pledged delegates before the convention (pretty much a certainty) having one who can claim that more voters chose that person suggests to the supers that they should observe the will of the people and commit themselves to the popular vote-getter.
by iglarmobley on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:58:42 PM PDT
It's a flawed argument that someone behind by a little will try to use if they're ahead in the popular vote. It's still a flawed argument. That's why I'm trying to put it down now.
Impeachment Now!
by bbrown8370 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:00:50 PM PDT
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It seems to me 100 delegates is a pretty healthy majority given the size of victories it takes to build up that big of a delegate cushion.
"Never separate the life you live from the words you speak" -Paul Wellstone
by WellstoneDem on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:09:13 PM PDT
If it was determined before this all started that pop vote would determine the victor in case no one had enough pledged delegaes to win, do you really think each candidate would have done everything the same? No, they would have focused more on winning both the popular vote and the delegates.
You can't set a different standard for victory than the one that was established at the beginning of the race.
And this is why the Dems will have a horrible mess on their hands. There is no agreed upon standard for how superdelegates should vote, and no one's taking a leadership position on settling this question.
by bflaff on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 01:18:20 PM PDT
The rule is that the superdelegates should do what their conscience tells them to do. They should weigh everything -- popular vote, PD count, recent scandals, results in states they think "matter" v. results in states they think "don't matter," appeal to independents and swing voters, ability to motivate the base, polling, gut, intuition, fear, hope, the whole shebang.
We can say this is a good system or a bad system. But everybody has known that's the system since before the 1984 campaign.
Personally, I'm not too worried. I think the SDs have the good sense to realize they should just fall in line with the PD result unless there's some huge late-breaking scandal that destroys the PD leader's chances in November. Because if they don't, then the party will blow up. Surely they realize this.
-4.25, -4.87 "If the truth were self-evident, there would be no need for eloquence." -- Cicero
by HeyMikey on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 02:55:50 PM PDT
I'm just writing this to advance the idea that considering the popular vote total number is flawed, and the superdelegates need to realize that.
by bbrown8370 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 09:58:18 PM PDT
wide narrow
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