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PolitiCook du jour.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:02:23 AM PDT
...are you sure that's the way to go?
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by N in Seattle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:07:35 AM PDT
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bake it yourself, so yes.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:08:19 AM PDT
buying the economy size bags of flour, storing it in air tight bins and stocking up on yeast cuz my little tinfoil capped brain told me to. Maybe I was right this time.
Until about 18 years ago, I did bake all our breads & withouth one of those new fangled breadmakes, and it looks like I will be revisiting those days. But really, it's not that hard, just takes time.
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by dansk47 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13:27 AM PDT
It is absolutely the best smell in the world
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by joeshwingding on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26:44 AM PDT
diary, but all this bread-baking talk is making me hungry! I'm mostly avoiding eating bread and other simple carbs for waistline-related reasons right now, but I do love the stuff! I learned to bake my own as a teen, and used to bring a loaf into school as a birthday gift (along with a homemade lei) instead of cookies or a bday cake. Friends would descend on my signature homemade bread like starving sharks, tearing off hunks.
My mom still bakes all her own bread. She buys large bags of flour (Costco, kids!, for the white stuff), and stores it in sealed plastic bins. Very economical this way.
Sweet are the uses of adversity...[Find] tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, Sermons in stones, and good in everything. -Shakespeare, As You Like It
by earicicle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:46:55 AM PDT
Dark breads are good, as they are fibrous and turn to sugar much more slowly. They also make you feel full faster!
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:57:59 AM PDT
And wholewheat breads.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:59:15 AM PDT
It's heavy, moist and dense, with lots of fiber. One slice, with lowfat cream cheese and smoked fish...it's a whole meal. But most bread simply doesn't fill me up. Until these last 20 lbs. come off, I'm sticking to the complex carbs that do, and concentrating on getting plenty of protein, sufficient fat, and lots of veg and fruit.
I think my Irish/German peasant genes have very sophisticated starvation-prevention DNA, and readily convert the simple carbs to fat. Unscientific, but true in my experience!
by earicicle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:13:54 PM PDT
Even the white-cotton cheapest bread is $1.50 a loaf. On sale. I can't bake to save my life but I may give breadbaking a shot anyway. Seems very therapeutic, too.
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by donnamarie on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:09:39 AM PDT
they're easy to operate, and in the long run, you save money, plus think about all the lovely smells of baked bread!
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:12:46 AM PDT
I don't have the luxury of time I guess. Plus my oven just sucks. It's not self-cleaning so it's not well insulated and it heats up the house. A bread machine would be ideal.
by donnamarie on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:17:36 AM PDT
Breville, not sure of you can get them in the USA, I'll have a looksee later.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:18:50 AM PDT
In my bread machine I use Fleischmanss's Instant Yeast, in a one lb. vaccum sealed pack. I can only find it at Sam's locally. It is MUCH cheaper than regular yeast. Uses only one third of the normal amount and only costs about 2-3 cents per loaf.
by in the Trees on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:21:47 PM PDT
is thrift stores in affluent suburbs, because everyone gets them for wedding presents.
another added bonus is that you get free of the high fructose corn syrup when you add the ingredients yourself.
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by wu ming on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:35:54 PM PDT
thought of the thrift stores, excellent idea. Also Craig List, and at the last resort, Ebay.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:55:41 PM PDT
by wu ming on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 04:23:06 PM PDT
... getting more costly by the day, too.
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by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:13:54 PM PDT
they do exist.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 01:15:01 PM PDT
Probably the single best thing for people in Darfur. Men get killed gathering firewood. Women only raped. In the less desperate parts of the world, they work well, too.
by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 01:17:05 PM PDT
Thank you for writing a diary about something other than last night's debate. Secondly, baking ones own bread is not cheap considering the price of wheat. And since we're using corn to make fuel cornbread is out of the question. Perhaps it's time to go vegetarian?
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:12:44 AM PDT
used to make bread.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13:39 AM PDT
I find that buying bulk-produced bread is cheaper than buying flour and paying for the electricity to run my oven.
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:20:13 AM PDT
I'm buying the superhealthiest, best-tasting bread I can find and cutting back on other things. I eat bread and butter as a full meal. Go for nutrient dense foods.
I looked at my Quicken and was shocked to discover that my food bill has gone down in the first quarter of 2008.
Yes, I think in terms like "first quarter" and "nutrient dense" because it keeps me from feeling like everything is out of control.
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by JG in MD on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:20:19 AM PDT
Dave's Killer bread and my husband does just take bread for lunch because it was so filling. It is great bread and a fascinating story behind how the company started. Unfortunately they are just getting off the ground and last week there was a story in the paper about how the increased prices might put them out of business.
by dansk47 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:39:24 AM PDT
from them and alert all your friends to do same. These are the people we want in business, not the multinationals.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:41:25 AM PDT
by dansk47 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:45:01 AM PDT
If you aren't vegie I learned a lesson from a neighbor years ago, a Mormon mother who was a lovely person.
She started with two basic recipes, whole wheat bread and oatmeal cookies, she combined the dry ingredients to make a basic start. She added nuts, cheddar cheese and cooked and crumbled bacon.
She used the ingredients as a bread, or sweetened w/brown sugar to make "Breakfast Bread or Breakfast Cookies", just by adapting to a bread or cookie recipe. Both were really good and my daughter used to race to her house when she smelled the bread baking.
The combination tasted wonderful as a sweet and savory cookie or as a dense bread, and her kids got their grains, fiber and protien all in one. This was a woman who raised nine children. My daughter became a vegetarian in her teens but still uses the recipe for her husband and kids, she just leaves out the bacon in her portion.
I'm a good cook, but a baker I'm not. I can not follow a recipe to save me, I always have to mess with it and screw it up.
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by high uintas on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:04:08 PM PDT
that are foolproof on my site last nite, still there on the front page.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:08:41 PM PDT
This fool is going to have to try and get back to you!
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:19:25 PM PDT
Mix left over mashed potatoes in when you are mixing it up. You only have to let it raise once, using the potato. And it tastes great.
"Though the Mills of the Gods grind slowly,Yet they grind exceeding small."
by Owllwoman on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26:48 AM PDT
great grandmother would do hers, and it tasted wonderful. Ah, the memories!
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:27:43 AM PDT
I'm not vegetarian completely, but a basketfull of fruits and veggies is almost getting too expensive for me.
I figure I'll be obese within the next three years if prices for real food don't start coming down.
by BoiseBlue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:15:04 AM PDT
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:15:55 AM PDT
Don't own a car, don't want one. I ride a bike or take the bus.
I was joking about obesity, but I do see the connection between the price of food and obesity rates.
by BoiseBlue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:18:36 AM PDT
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:19:11 AM PDT
The only inexpensive food here is simple carbs,(Ramen noodles) or stuff packed with HFCS. It's ugly.
by high uintas on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 02:06:05 PM PDT
I have read comparisons on cost of produce per calorie compared with junk food with the incorrect conclusion that it is more costly to eat well. This is a misunderstanding of vegetarian diets. The point is not to fill up on cucumbers, the point is to fill up on grains and legumes. They are most expensive than they used to be, but will always be cheaper than meat. One of the causes of higher grain prices is that the developing world, especially China is eating more meat, so grains are going towards feeding livestock.
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:18:57 AM PDT
Actually the recipe of the day on my site is going to be about lentils.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:20:17 AM PDT
I love lentils!
by BoiseBlue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22:57 AM PDT
I try to incorporate all of the food groups into my diet. Fruits, veggies, grains, protiens, etc. But it is getting too expensive to do that.
by BoiseBlue on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22:16 AM PDT
You need a varied die, but getting your caloric needs from grains and legumes is not only cheaper than meat, but much healthier and better for the environment. I'm not a vegetarian myself, and don't believe in absolutes, but we do eat way too much meat in this country.
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:25:03 AM PDT
and fruit trees, if you have the yard space. even if you just have an apartment balcony, you can grow a surprising amount of tomatoes, peppers and herbs in containers.
by wu ming on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:38:40 PM PDT
things going. I got a box that makes a 8" x 8" pan for $.38 just the other day. Just add one egg and some milk. You can always jigger it up with cheese or jalapenos if you want.
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by ohiolibrarian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:27:49 AM PDT
neck of the woods, add some to it, tastes delicious.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:29:18 AM PDT
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by drbloodaxe on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:55:00 AM PDT
That's got to be a mantra for the socially responsible starting now.
"If we believe that all humans are human, than how are we going to prove it? It can only be proven through our actions." Lt. Gen. Romeo Dallaire
by djs on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13:24 AM PDT
ever.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14:56 AM PDT
Book called In Defense of Food is terrific. Premise is that middle-of-the-store packaged items are often not "food" but "foodlike products."
Advice is
Eat Food Mostly Plants Not Too Much Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize.
by JG in MD on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22:47 AM PDT
Wouldn't recognize anything that came in a package. Thanks for the rule-of-thumb, it's very helpful!
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26:28 AM PDT
wouldn't recognize."
I love it. Can I pretend I had great-grandmothers who were from other cultures, however? I don't think my Irish and German great-grandmothers would recognize tofu or a nice ripe bowl of poi, for example.
by earicicle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:53:43 AM PDT
I never met my great-grandmother, but I imagine her diet was similar to my grandmother's, who was a rice farmer. Her diet was mostly steamed rice, stir-fried vegetables, slow-cooked beans, and yogurt from the neighbor's cow. Meat and fish was a once-a-week thing.
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:10 PM PDT
Very much how I like to eat...although I take in more protein and less rice.
We're so lucky that we can choose, culinarily, from so many cultures. But we have to avoid so many packaged, processed food pitfalls. As healthy as I like to eat, put some Double Stuff Oreos on this desk right now, and I'd have a hard time resisting.
by earicicle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:17:40 PM PDT
I have a weakness for black licorice :)
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 01:13:17 PM PDT
This is an incredibly important issue, and it's getting much worse and doing so very quickly. There are other reasons besides the biofuels problem, but that's one of the big reasons, and long term that aspect of the problem will just get worse.
Great diary, and great job tracking resource problems lately. You've had a string of really outstanding diaries.
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by DHinMI on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:22:14 AM PDT
Food and water are essentials and should be seen as such, alongside environment.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:24:51 AM PDT
How can you focus on such minor issues when there are aspersions to cast about neighbors Obama may or may not associate with, who did bad things when he was 8 years old and living half a world away!
Really, AAF! It's all about priorities here in the Bazaar of the Bizarre, aka American Media World.
by earicicle on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:32 PM PDT
relegated politics at the bottom of the pile!!
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:03:48 PM PDT
The "lump" on McCain's face and Hillary's wardrobe!
by sunshineonthebay on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:04:47 PM PDT
trying to do my part.
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by TexDem on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:25:59 AM PDT
Thanks.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:26:47 AM PDT
by TexDem on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 11:28:07 AM PDT
Anybody with even a patch of dirt really ought to do so. I've been at it for several years now. At present, there's blossoms on the apricots and it's snowing. Good for the trees, and as long as it doesn't get too cold overnight, not bad for the blossoms.
Have planted many varieties on the theory that something's always gonna produce between the spring frosts.
by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:08:10 PM PDT
Thanks
by TexDem on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:23:32 PM PDT
... quite a bit lately. This is relevant to the food topic at hand:
Version 2. Take your pick.
by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:33:52 PM PDT
apple trees, not sure why but I figure that one day it would come in handy.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:26:06 PM PDT
2 peach, 1 fig last year. And will most likely plant 2 apple trees this year.
by TexDem on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:32:06 PM PDT
... you're gonna want a cider press.
by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37:39 PM PDT
also said that she might want to sell them on the open market.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 12:41:31 PM PDT
too, or we'll still be baking bread while others starve. It seems Gore is talking about leading a new initiative to put pressure on the US government to adopt adequate policy measures in the face of clmiate change. I hope so. I like Obama, but I know he wont' go far enough unless the people are pushing it. We need knowledgable leaders, like Gore, focused on this one set of issues, so we can work on both the personal and policy levels.
(I don't bake bread, but I eat a whole lot of rice and beans.)
by Fiona West on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 03:53:26 PM PDT
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 04:33:06 PM PDT
wide narrow
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