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  •  Screw that (2+ / 0-)

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    Don't give Hillary anything.  She'll take all she can get.  Besides, it's not up to anyone to break the rules and 'give' her delegates who, it was agreed before the race started, did not count towards the nomination.

    I think people should just be focused on one thing right now.  Obama wins Indiana.  If he wins NC and IN this thing really is going to be over and all of this numbers crunching will become moot.  

    People are so beat down at this point, they are missing the fact that there is a chance to end this thing.  

    The whole race is just symbolic at this point.  It stopped being a race for delegates a while ago because Obama won.  All that is needed now is the clear-cut victory where Obama claims the nomination and the supers have cover to say they are just ratifying and not creating the winner.  

    McCain is not getting my state. Is he getting yours?

    by Sun dog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:45:47 PM PDT

    •  Why not let every exhibition game the Eagles win (3+ / 0-)

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      this season count towards the regular season?

      John McCain - Like W. Only Older.

      Funny McCain Pics archive updated regularly

      by InsultComicDog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:47:49 PM PDT

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    •  Don't count on it. (2+ / 0-)

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      SLKRR, Seneca Doane

      If he wins NC and IN this thing really is going to be over and all of this numbers crunching will become moot.  

      Like I said before, no one has ever been as good at moving goal posts and setting new narratives than Clinton and her campaign. It's truely remarkable.

      by Mike S on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:49:40 PM PDT

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      •  Win or lose Indiana, you'll here this on May 7th: (1+ / 0-)

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        "Meet me in West Virginia!!  YEEEAAAARRRGGHH!!!"

        Count on it.

        "Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity."

        by SLKRR on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:51:37 PM PDT

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    •  No... (0+ / 0-)

      He did not win. Even he will fall short of the needed delegates no matter what happens. Saying he has won the delegate race is misleading...

      Support Ryan for Kentucky!! http://www.actblue.com/page/americansforryan

      by RDemocrat on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:51:22 PM PDT

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      •  Not true at all (1+ / 0-)

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        Even he will fall short of the needed delegates no matter what happens.

        Just about 40-50 more supers plus the add-ons he's already going to get from state he won and this statement becomes inoperative  ;-)

        "Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity."

        by SLKRR on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:07:04 PM PDT

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        •  Yes it is true (0+ / 0-)

          He won more delegates than she did.  He won.  It's a cheap trick to say he didn't win enough therefore he didn't win.  He won more than anyone else.  It's important because the supers will ratify the winner.  Obama is the winner.  

          McCain is not getting my state. Is he getting yours?

          by Sun dog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:35:29 PM PDT

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          •  But.... (0+ / 0-)

            If you say the rules should be followed in regards to MI and FL, and Obama doesn't get the required delegates to win the nomination in the primaries then technically he didn't win the required delegates. The supers are free to cast in with whichever one they want. If you go by the rules.....

            Support Ryan for Kentucky!! http://www.actblue.com/page/americansforryan

            by RDemocrat on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 08:16:13 PM PDT

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            •  Obama won the delegate battle (0+ / 0-)

              He won the election.  Yes, the supers can reverse that if they perceive a dire need.  That's the rules.  But in the interest of them not destroying the party and doing that, it seems worth the time to point out that Obama did win among the voters.  So, Hillary people can say he didn't win in the interest of trying to keep that door open for the supers to do that but I will argue with you until I'm dead or this thing is done that it is wrong beyond words to encourage them to do that.  Because Obama won among the voters.  

              McCain is not getting my state. Is he getting yours?

              by Sun dog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 08:44:58 PM PDT

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    •  I'd Give it to the people of Florida (0+ / 0-)

      I was tempted to go with the
      breakdown + rest of the numbers divided, but I think I'll stick with "as is" divided by 2 plan.

      by Hey BB on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:11:25 PM PDT

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      •  That's not giving them anything (0+ / 0-)

        Their 'election' wasn't based on a campaign.  It's not fair to any Obama supporter in FL because he wasn't able to come in and combat the superior name recognition of Hillary.  How is it 'giving' anything to them to ratify an unfair vote?  

        McCain is not getting my state. Is he getting yours?

        by Sun dog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:51:23 PM PDT

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