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  •  How do you explain the poll? (0+ / 0-)

    Fine sentiments, but how do you explain the poll with Obama plus 14 vs. McCain and Coleman plus 7 vs Franken.  Same polling firm, same day, same polling call.

    Doesn't this demostrate, like nothing else, Franken's extreme weakness as a candidate?

    by richmond199 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 08:34:15 AM PDT

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    •  How I would explain it (0+ / 0-)

      When Franken ran boigraphical ads earlier in the year his numbers spiked against Coleman. I think it got Coleman's attention and he has been in the state much more often recently.

      I think once Franken starts dialing up the ads and appearances against Coleman this summer and into the fall, this race will tighten considerably.

      I love it when Norm is up for election. We get to see his true flip-flopping ways and we get to see him as a family man when his "wife" flies in from LA with the kids.

      That family is like a comet, you only see them about every 6 years.

      I think there's about a 40-50% chance we unseat Coleman with Obama on the ticket. 0% if Clinton in the nominee. I think Clinton loses all of the competitive upper midwest states to McCain (WI, MN, IA).

      by savvyspy on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 08:42:47 AM PDT

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      •  Wisconsin (0+ / 0-)

        Yep, Obama plays better here than Clinton.  In other states you might view your candidate as "someone who feels familiar" -- in the midwest we look for "someone we'd hire."

        Obama looks smart enough to understand what's important to me (though he won't always agree), and lean enough to not get tired halfway through a hard day's work.

        He's slightly soft at the finish where McCain picks up 2pts just because it's hunting season.

        by Sussemilch on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 08:56:25 AM PDT

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      •  21 pt variance? (0+ / 0-)

        You're avoiding the question.  A 21pt variance between Obama's result in Minnesota vs. Franken's?

        The other big problem with Franken is that Coleman is now attracting hug national campaign contributions due to Franken's celebrity and Air America target status.  527's are pulling out all of the TV clips, Air America recorded segments, and Al's 'Trading Places' gorilla scene to use against him.

        Folks who think Franken can win in Minnesota are smoking and inhaling.

        by richmond199 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:52:33 AM PDT

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        •  I'd agree with that (0+ / 0-)

          I don't see Franken getting much over 40% in Minnesota.  Which is awful, because Coleman sucks bad.  If the Dems would just put up a normal non-flashy small business owner or educator, Coleman would go down in flames.

          I like Franken.  I like laughing at Franken.  I wouldn't vote for him though.

          by Sussemilch on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:16:07 AM PDT

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        •  Are you new to this? (0+ / 0-)

          43-50 is no bad place for a challenger to be more than six months out from polling day.

          All that large gap represents is Obama's superior name recognition to Franken's.

          by lurker on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 05:39:10 PM PDT

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    •  Also ... Obama will help this race ... (0+ / 0-)

      re: turn out ... Coleman is going down  ... bank on it .. it will be a naibiter .. but Al will prevail in the end .. do you really think Minnesota will want a Repuke representing them ... come November?

      John McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion

      by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 08:51:35 AM PDT

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    •  how do you explain Franken is #1 in $ raised? (0+ / 0-)

      and that most of it is from inside Minnesota?  $10M raised so far and still over $4M left CoH to continue to introduce himself as a serious candidate.

      it's all good.  and with Barack at the top of the ticket, I have already begun to focus on the OR and ME seats; MN is a 65%+ chance of winning whereas OR and ME are still about 50/50...

      The world is so cold and the rhythm is your blanket, wrap yourself up in it, if you love it then you'll thank it.

      by Ajax the Greater on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 09:00:47 AM PDT

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    •  recent change in poll numbers (0+ / 0-)

      due to recent republican attacks on his sloppy personal finances.  (Plug for my diary here.) This should be a temporary dip. Coleman is an opportunistic nimrod.

      by glassbeadgame on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 11:17:12 AM PDT

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