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  •  Happened in plenty of places (0+ / 0-)

    I think that is high end, but we will see over 2M votes cast, with clinton picking up between 200 and 250K popular votes.

    "Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    by ActivatedbyBush on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 02:05:29 PM PDT

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    •  Which she'll lose... (1+ / 0-)

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      two weeks later in North Carolina.  And she'll only pick up around 10 delegates with a 10 point PA win.

      "President Obama will be the most liberal President of our lifetime."

      by rashomon on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 02:08:04 PM PDT

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      •  This is my favorite part (0+ / 0-)

        The last strategy Clinton was using was to have overwelming momentum going into PA.  But guess what, Barack delivered a historic speech.  Clinton's momentum has not only been decimated, Barack has been off to the races and North Carolina is going to push the wrong way for Clinton.

        by dan667 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 03:01:23 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah lets ignore the minus 10 point (0+ / 0-)

      trend in the polls taken over the past week.  I remember when an HRC supporter was seriously talking about her winning 85% of the vote in PA.  This is looking more and more like a single digit win.  Insorfar as counting the votes in the beauty contests are concerned why not add the votes in the TX caucus as well?  Those were real people casting real votes, and their votes unlike the ones in the beauty contests lead to the awarding of delegates?  

      by True Independent on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 02:08:41 PM PDT

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      •  Because ya only get to have your vote counted (0+ / 0-)

        once!   I don't know who was smoking the 85% dope.   This will follow same trend as OH.  The demos are pretty locked in.  There have been no real breakthroughs in the solidity of the two candidates' coalitions.

        "Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one." - Friedrich Nietzsche

        by ActivatedbyBush on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 02:31:29 PM PDT

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        •  Suppose Michigan had two contests one in Jan and (0+ / 0-)

          one in March.  Half the delegates were awarded in Jan and the rest in March.  Do you only count the Jan vote totals and just disenfranchise those who bothered to show up in March?  That is the logic of your statement that "you only get to vote once."  Delegates were handed out in both contests so a Jan voters vote is no more superior than the person who voted in March.  If you want to be fair then say a person's primary vote is worth 2/3 of a whole vote because that is the portion of delegates that were at stake for that vote, and that the caucus vote counts for 1/3 of a whole vote.  If you do that Clinton's 102K primary pop vote total in TX is gone.  The result is anywhere from a +20K for Clinton to a +18K for Obama, either way Obama's overall pop vote lead just increased by a 100K, putting him over 900K (once you add in the five non-reporting caucus states like RCP has done).

          by True Independent on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 12:00:18 AM PDT

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    •  It looks like it happened in one place (0+ / 0-)

      New Hampshire. Link Turnout has been good, but 50%(2 million voters in PA) or over, is probably unrealistic.

      by jj32 on Thu Apr 03, 2008 at 02:13:06 PM PDT

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