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  •  The fourth estate is NOT the fourth wall of the (5+ / 0-)

    Pentagon!  The military is a far stronger and more beloved institution in this country than to need to be so paranoid as to try to brainwash we citizenry.

    We pay for your expenses.  Who works for whom?  The citizen comes first, no assbackwards attempt to justify pulling our strings negates the Pentagon's conflicted behavior.

    Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

    by Nulwee on Sat May 10, 2008 at 08:33:45 AM PDT

    •  Sorry to interject... (1+ / 0-)

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      kyril

      but the pentagon has FIVE walls!

      Maybe they slipped Pravda in as last minute shoring...

    •  It's beloved (3+ / 0-)

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      because people have been taught to worship the warrior class, but no one is reminded about how much it costs to run ....
      I wonder if those tax obsessed Republicans were made aware that the majority of their tax dollars pour into the pockets of a few corporations, they'd probably call for cutting government waste in the places it was being wasted the most. - maybe not, because then they'd have thought about it and be liberals!

      Avoiding Theocracy at Home and Neo Cons Abroad

      by UniC on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:39:48 AM PDT

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    •  You are wrong. (2+ / 0-)

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       The military is an institution that competes like the banks, like the health industry, like the manufacturers as a business.  Out sourcing many of its functions is "good business". The hard truth about readiness, stability long term safety, treating persons fairly is subordinate to the business model.

      How many officers get to go to graduate business school as well as tactics or combat operations or logistics? The majority of senior officers are  indoctrinated in the current business theory and leading edge ideas. Then they translate and implement that as they get into senior staff positions. MA's,PHD's are common now, just as they are in Fortune 50 companies.

      Face it. Without a war there is no turnover in men, material and projects. War is needed to grow the business. Couple that with the procurement system and the close incestuous relations with retired officers and defense contractors and salesmen worldwide and there is the USA today. That's who dominates our business, along with the fossil fuel industry to make it go.

       The brazenness of selling a war and manipulating public opinion and keeping the majority of Americans ignorant and brainwashed is what the media  partners do. Willingly and obediently.  Yes it is illegal.

       Do you believe the corrupt, penetrated and politically tuned to the neocons and corporate crooks  Dept. Of Justice (hah!) under Bush and Mukasey will lift ONE finger to tackle this?

        We have vampires and prostitutes as civil servants,not patriots. Patriotism is so old, like World War  2 old. Nobody wears those sort of clothes today. They wear those synthetic recycled Chinese uniforms with US flag pins or badges or ribbons, also
      Chinese made . That is the business of "smart" business is trumping the business of self reliance. That is a quaint old idea, trusting Americans or relying on our own. Not fashionable or realistic in the new globalized world.

      They are all smart terrorism fighters today!  And we "know there are terrorists everywhere",including any number of Americans.

      John McCain: a survivor, not a hero. Just ask his first wife. He had his chance to be a hero and blew it.

      by Pete Rock on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:11:55 PM PDT

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      •  What the hell are you talking about? (1+ / 0-)

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        Random.

        Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

        by Nulwee on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:48:59 PM PDT

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        •  Naive and wrong (1+ / 0-)

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          Without trying to insult you, with all due respect to your feelings and honorable sentiment they are exactly trying to brainwash us.

          The military is a far stronger and more beloved institution in this country than to need to be so paranoid as to try to brainwash we citizenry.

          Between the military and defense/industrial contractors and the fossil fuel companies the strategy and politics of America are set. The weakness of most of their claims, and the "merchants of death" business is not popular enough to compete for favor unless the public is  deliberately and systematically misinformed.

          Nothing "random" or mistaken about it. The corruption and devotion to their own little death cult runs deep.

          US military trades off its respect earned in WW2, but not so much later. Not that much to be proud of later. Is that America's future to have endless wars everywhere to seize every last drop of oil it can? To keep the war machines, ships, planes, trucks flying and rolling?  That is McCain's promise to us.

          BTW, we have been making war on Iran overtly and covertly since 1952. That makes 56 years.

          John McCain: a survivor, not a hero. Just ask his first wife. He had his chance to be a hero and blew it.

          by Pete Rock on Sat May 10, 2008 at 02:06:54 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah... (0+ / 0-)

            I said they were brainwashing us.  Without trying to insult you, your response to my comment was random.

            Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

            by Nulwee on Sun May 11, 2008 at 01:15:13 AM PDT

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