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  •  It's the First Attempt to Replace the Fuctionalty (16+ / 0-)

    of organized labor.

    So yes, it's a sea change even from 2006, because there is a serious mainstream-party project of enlarging the entire party everywhere.

    I'd guess that even if Obama is knocked out, he'll continue in this.

    His Presidential run has been called the Mars Landing version of Howard Dean's Wright-brothers Presidential run.

    Well, Obama's 50-state national partybuilding is also, for many of the same reasons, the Mars Landing version of the original Dean Democracy for America.

    I would love to be white haired and prune-faced some day, reading the well-loved history of these two men in this time.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:56:20 PM PDT

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      never forget to add Joe Trippi to the mix.
      After all, it was his pestering Dean to no end through 2003 that made the concept of bottom up campaigning a reality.

      •  You're Absolutely Right. I'm Not Well Schooled (0+ / 0-)

        on the details of these campaigns but yeah Trippi is obviously one of the leaders.

        Is my impression correct that the newly emerging meetup community basically pounced on Dean and made him the much more viable candidate he became?

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:48:04 PM PDT

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    •  And it makes me wonder... (1+ / 0-)

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      ...what will happen to Obama's organization, once he departs the scene.

      We worked for the Clintons, and that organization wound up in their hands.

      We worked for Gore - and Kerry - and those organizations, too, wound up to some considerable degree in the hands of the Clintons.

      Obama's organization - a brilliant thing, which we are only beginning to glimpse - will wind up in other hands, of course.  But whose?  And used to what end?

      The time to think of this is, of course, now.

      It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

      by Jaime Frontero on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:36:07 PM PDT

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      •  What Happened to Organized Labor? (1+ / 0-)

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        It certainly hasn't been purely power by and for its people since probably the earliest few years.

        All institutional power can only be partly owned by the common people generally. We have to figure that an generation of mainstream party leadership will emerge with this infrastructure to run it to a significant degree.

        So we the people need to see that, right now, we need to begin thinking of the system of our own empowerment in terms of their becoming interests unto their own selves, and of how to check and balance that aspect of them to keep them responsive to us.

        It's turtles all the way up.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:51:17 PM PDT

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        •  Yes. Organized Labor. (0+ / 0-)

          My point exactly.

          It seems to me that there are two kinds of power in this world: the kind given by people with a lot of it to those who have less, and who do their bidding in return for it.  And the kind given by those with very little of it, to those who thereby accumulate a considerable amount - but only with the continued assent of those who give it.

          The former makes me... apprehensive.  I'm much more comfortable with the latter.

          There may be nothing more important in this K/O Diary, than his mention of sunset laws as a major Progressive agenda.

          Because another thing I've noticed about power, is that the ladder always gets pulled up.  No matter how people acquire it, they tend to make sure that those who come next are blocked from using the same tactics.

          It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

          by Jaime Frontero on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:08:15 PM PDT

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