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keeping balance than most of the news media.
I think the whole SNL thing was misinterpreted by most people some weeks ago. SNL never was in the tank for Hillary; it's just that Amy Poehler had been mocking HRC week after week, month after month with no corresponding Obama parody, so when Tina Fey returned to the show to host, the women felt that SNL's treatment of the race needed more balance. I don't think they had any idea how that one episode, given its timing, would impact the race and change the media coverage to stack the deck against HRC's opponent; it appears they are taking some responsibility for that with this newest episode. Good for them.
(And let's face it, all politics aside, the brilliant Amy Poehler's take on Hillary is about a thousand times funnier than the usually humorous Fred Armisen's awful Obama impression that sounds nothing like him in voice, cadence, or speech patterns.)
Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.
by ShadowSD on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:25:04 AM PDT
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Might have been kos or one of the other front page diarists who recently said we've moved beyond parody into surrealism.
But what other assessment makes sense when The Daily Show has become a better source for news and analysis than the major media outlet claiming to be fair and balanced. Particularly when the others are completely focused on pandering to the least informed viewers in an endless competition for audience share.
by Parallax857 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:37:10 AM PDT
zombie news, for the brain dead.
What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.
by agnostic on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:50:02 AM PDT
Can't blame them really. Just a business decision.
by Rick Winrod on Sun May 11, 2008 at 07:13:54 AM PDT
have been reputed to say? "No offense; just business."
(I saw "The Godfather." I know these things.)
by Parallax857 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 07:26:38 AM PDT
that the typical SNL viewer dislikes Hillary, and was thus tuning out because SNL was cutting Hillary way too much positive slack.
I certainly tuned out.
Lorne Michaels does not want to have SNL go down the toilet with Hillary.
by BonzoDogBand on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:53:29 AM PDT
And there was nothing wrong with that when they first gave her a national stage. But let's face it by anyones standard she went very negative and more importantly the voters she was courting; uneducated; racist, fearful old people, beltway faithful.
Those groups probably aren't the people that the advertisers know and want to reach out to. They advertisers know full well the demographics of the SNL audience.
The insecure uneducated slightly racist factory worker; or the old folks who don't want anything to change - those aren't big SNL auidiences.
So I"m happy to see this pretty balsy indictment of HRC. They really didn't pull any punches there.
by puffy66 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 02:11:19 PM PDT
He summed up her her supports by calling them un-educated, thats something that is missed in all of the race discussion.
"Invest In America, Instead of Iraq. Vote Democratic"
by manumit on Sun May 11, 2008 at 02:17:04 PM PDT
over sixty, blue collar, white bowlers.
Advertisers could have told Lorne Michaels/NBC to get with the program.
by BonzoDogBand on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:02:38 PM PDT
"mobile deceased" news
Rec for the first to get the reference...
(-7.25, -5.85) "Talk amongst yourselves. The Christian Right: neither Christian nor right. Discuss." --Linda Richman
by Slartibartfast on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:41:19 AM PDT
by kalmoth on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:57:42 PM PDT
by Slartibartfast on Sun May 11, 2008 at 03:22:57 PM PDT
by kalmoth on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:57:58 PM PDT
Corporate media has pushed the limit of irresponsibility.
The real question: Is Freedom of the Press confined to news - the responsible reportage of government and activities of this nation - or is the news function lost in the ambiguity of entertainment?
That raises another question: Does entertainment fall under Freedom of the Press?
My answer is "No, entertainment does not."
The functions should be split apart forever.
"But their gift is an empty snake, Carrying hypocrisy in its mouth like venom" - Sami Al Hajj
by walkshills on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:55:23 AM PDT
and head over to TalkLeft, where several commenters are trying to argue that it was intended as a parody of the MSM's depiction of Hillary ... and that the actress just couldn't pull off the subtlety ...
Let us realize: the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. -MLK
by eustiscg on Sun May 11, 2008 at 07:46:12 AM PDT
Have enjoyed lurking in Hillaryland. Talkleft, Hillaryis44, TaylorMarsh, etc. It's all quite funny. The angst. The complete and utter denial of reality. No hazmat suit needed. Just don't the koolaid.
by Parallax857 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:29:56 AM PDT
by Parallax857 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:30:37 AM PDT
I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers
by geez53 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:16:27 AM PDT
Bush & McCain - as inseparable as Shit & Stink.
by Celtic Merlin on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:39:57 AM PDT
is just about as funny as the clip:
_______________________________ Healing the universe is an inside job.
by spotDawa on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:49:26 AM PDT
Katie has a half-pitying look of horror as she does the follow-up Q on Hillary's delusional answer.
by Timothy J on Sun May 11, 2008 at 01:57:59 PM PDT
interventions tend to go. As in, not well...
by spotDawa on Sun May 11, 2008 at 02:09:18 PM PDT
Lawd, I can't go back there, indiana wants me, lawd, I can't go back there.
by agnostic on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:30:47 AM PDT
R. Dean Taylor. Have no idea where he is now.
Oh, and don't call me Shirley. ;-)
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by snookybeh on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:03:16 AM PDT
I was told that I didn't have to be pro-Clinton to post there. My last post, I believe, was one in which I responded when someone claimed that it was a dirty lie that BClinton went on the Rush Limbaugh show. The claim was that someone was imitating BC's voice as a joke and that Obama supporters bought into it.
Responding with the truth to that line, and to some other pieces of misinformation about Sens. Obama and Clinton led to me not being able to access the comments... Eh, I think I'll live ;)
Not only is another world possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing. Arundhati Roy
by Denni on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:18:43 PM PDT
I have no desire whatsoever to engage the dead enders. I just enjoy lurking and observing, often with sheer dumbstruck awe, the things some people believe.
by Parallax857 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:28:05 PM PDT
and work.
Journalism SHOULD.
by TBarta on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:18:38 AM PDT
Jon Stewart is every bit as informed and savvy as any talking head or newscaster. The difference is, he makes explicit every criticism and snipe that the talking heads try to sneak into their commentary. This means he delivers commentary that is similar in content but far more straight-forward and honest in style, which makes him seem like a straight-talker instead of some party's underhanded stooge.
Crescat scientia; vita excolatur
by AxmxZ on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:24:51 AM PDT
you need to know at least something about the news in order to get most of the jokes on the show. All the people lamenting the fact that "young people get their news from the daily show" ignore that on the whole young people are more informed because of the internet. The show would be 80% unintelligible if you didn't have background knowledge about the world.
by nwodtuhs on Sun May 11, 2008 at 10:39:04 AM PDT
"A journalism think tank studying "The Daily Show" doesn't believe many people get their news from Jon Stewart - because otherwise they wouldn't get the jokes.
The Project for Excellence in Journalism also said it was surprised at how much the Comedy Central late-night program resembles "The O'Reilly Factor," "Hardball" and other cable news shows in content."
http://www.newser.com/...
by AxmxZ on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:17:14 AM PDT
I would say that Jon Stewart is almost exactly analogous to a Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly. He offers almost the same kind of commentary to promote left-wing causes as they do to promote right-wing causes. They try as hard to be funny as Stewart and Stewart is as much of an informer and advocate as they are.
The main difference being that they claim to be serious analysts and Stewart does not.
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by Drunkard on Sun May 11, 2008 at 01:12:35 PM PDT
McCain's speaking style: Like a bad Andy Rooney impersonator, except not that good.
by edg on Sun May 11, 2008 at 01:51:22 PM PDT
In fact, they try to make their shows as funny as possible, like Stewart.
Stewart is just more talented and he is also classy and avoids attacking regular people, unlike Limbaugh and O'Reilly.
by Drunkard on Sun May 11, 2008 at 06:50:44 PM PDT
the faux southern accent she started sporting post PA.... if you listen to Hillary in recent weeks, she sounds like she has a south alabama southern drawl. you know the scarlet o'hara yaaaa'll accent.
Dennis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed! King Arthur: Bloody peasant! Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway!
by wargolem on Sun May 11, 2008 at 08:31:48 AM PDT
one day I was about to slaughter a hog out back the way we done it in Arkansas and this snooty White House butler ran out and said, "Madam, you can't kill a hog on the White House lawn." And you know what I said? I said, "Who in hell do you think you're talking to? I ain't no madam. I'm Hillary. Just Hillary." And you know what? That snooty butler held the pig for me and we done what we did and that was some good eating."
Greed makes a really shitty foundation for a civilization to build itself upon.
by Red Bean on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:05:31 AM PDT
Scranton , Chicago, Arkansas... wtf where the hell is she from if you listen to her she keeps talking about when she was a little girl and it is like no matter where she is, she says she was raised there.
by wargolem on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:09:06 AM PDT
You know, where all the good, hardworking, uneducated white people sip Crown Royal from a shot glass.
by 2ajpuu on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:33:21 PM PDT
But she nails certain affects of HRC's speaking style and presentation that make it work. Armisan's Obama, with all the odd pauses, sounded like he had a brain injury.
by ShadowSD on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:05:41 AM PDT
who will imitate him, and what characteristics could they use?
Then again, I'm not a comic, so what do I know?
Barack Obama for President '08
by v2aggie2 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:16:03 PM PDT
by edg on Sun May 11, 2008 at 01:56:15 PM PDT
He scratches his nose and his face quite often.
Dems in 2008: An embarassment of riches. Repubs in 2008: Embarassments.
by Yamaneko2 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:03:57 PM PDT
It was on teevee and everything!
/snark
by edg on Sun May 11, 2008 at 05:39:33 PM PDT
are pretty funny.
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent" --Gandhi
by dsharma23 on Sun May 11, 2008 at 02:12:12 PM PDT
are the one thing Armisen gets right. Otherwise his impression is horrendous.
"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama
by stefanielaine on Sun May 11, 2008 at 02:59:40 PM PDT
The Obama impersonator on the Leno show, he does a much better job.
We sink or swim together.
by BrighidG on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:02:24 PM PDT
newspapers picked up on it, in local stories just before the primary. There would be a passing reference to something like "a slight southern accent" and "her new accent."
The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips
by Mnemosyne on Sun May 11, 2008 at 09:59:51 AM PDT
wide narrow
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