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...ask them:
Do you think a woman should have to wait 24 hours after she comes to a clinic to obtain an abortion?
Do you think a woman should be required to view photographs of the stages of development of a fetus before having an abortion?
Do you think medical procedures for poor women should be covered by Medicaid? Do you include abortion in that coverage?
Do you think 15-year-old girls should be required to get their parents' permission before obtaining an abortion?
Do you think a woman who wants an abortion for economic reasons should be denied this option?
Do you think the husband (or boyfriend) should have a legal say over whether his wife (or girlfriend) has an abortion?
Their answers to those questions determine for me whether they are pro-choice.
I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land. -- Mark Twain
by Meteor Blades on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:26:47 PM PDT
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I'm just talking about a way of getting through the fog. A way of thinking about it where they can realize that they may be anti-abortion for themselves but that it really doesn't make sense to try to legislate that for others.
You're talking more about pro-choice as a badge. I'm talking about the fact that the anti-choice people have done a better job of getting big numbers of people to think that's the side of the fence they are on.
Being angry that the captain isn't doing enough to stop the sharks is no good reason to harpoon the lifeboat.
by Sun dog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:59:01 PM PDT
...I understand that you're trying to break through to the other side, and I appreciate that. It's an approach that sometimes works. But only sometimes. And my concern is that every nibble into reproductive rights protection KILLS women. So, when I hear talk about uniting with these folks, what that says to me is not so much trying to pry them out of their false consciousness about their real views but rather reaching some kind of compromise. The trouble is, compromise with those who would ban abortion is deadly.
by Meteor Blades on Mon May 12, 2008 at 06:36:20 PM PDT
There's no compromising here, not from me.
Again, I'm not talking about addressing the hardcore politico anti-choice people. I'm talking about taking them out at the knees.
They have been able to push people around not because of their street protests and intimidation. That stuff has probably cost them more than it's gained. They have had success because of the huge numbers of people who think of themselves as 'pro-life.'
I'm talking about taking the public dialogue to the point that those masses of people realize which side they're actually on. We win that argument and the nutjobs are relegated to a noisy little fringe instead of part of a coalition that gets insane Republicans elected president.
by Sun dog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 09:32:13 PM PDT
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