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I used to respect you.
The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.
by DHinMI on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:19 PM PDT
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There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. S. Holmes
by Carnacki on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:25:19 PM PDT
You're not doing yourself any good, you appear to be supremely frustrated about something, and you're just going to further damage credibility you've built up over several years.
You should take a break from Daily Kos and come back when your emotions are overriding your thinking.
by DHinMI on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:27 AM PDT
Says the man who sounds much like Pat Buchanan did last night on MSNBC. You resorted immediately to childish name calling when people pointed out the flawed logic of your assumptions.
Why don't you take your own advice? In all seriousness, you fly off the handle much too quickly with commenters not just with me but others on many threads. You've always been hot tempered, but the fact that you seem incapable of admitting when you're wrong or even the possibility that you're wrong makes me think you need a break from the echo chamber.
by Carnacki on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:35:13 AM PDT
If you think I sound like Pat Buchanan, you should probably step back from the site for a while and regain your bearings.
You're in danger of becoming a sad punchline.
If for no other reason, your prediction a few weeks ago that Obama would do well in WV shows that your emotions have clearly gotten in the way of sound judgment. Obama didn't get waxed in WV because of Daily Kos. But what I wrote explained that it was near certain to happen, and it did, and you clearly have a deep and almost delusional resistance to dealing with these realities, and instead are attributing nefarious motives and attitudes to people who point out reality.
You really should reflect on how you're denying reality here and lashing out at those who are discussing reality. To do that, you may need to separate yourself from the site for a while. Either that, or you need to very quickly deal with the world as it is in order to change it, and stop imagining things as being much rosier than they really are.
by DHinMI on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:46:43 AM PDT
It's true. He said West Virginia was too racist for Obama, just like you did - although you tried to deny you inserted racism into this in one comment and then say you were acknowledging the obvious in another. Indeed, I amended my prediction, saying there was no reason Bill Clinton couldn't be right about an 80 percent win for her. But you're still not acknowledging your error in your bigoted view.
Admit it, you're no kos or Poblano:
p.s. Here's Poblano on the notion that WV is a "racist state": I do want to write a little bit more about the notion that West Virginians are racist. The longer version will have to wait until later today or tomorrow. But the short version is: yes, there are racist voters in West Virginia, but there are racist voters in every state. The primary determinant of the extent to which racism tends to be more manifest is education levels, and so the effects may be more noticeable in West Virgnia, a state with poor academic achievement. But there is no reason to believe that West Virgnians are particularly racist, relative to their education levels. p.p.s. To all you Obama supporters tempted to belittle or insult West Virginia, just remember how annoying it has been when the Clinton camp has done that to Obama states like Idaho and Utah and Mississippi. A 50-state strategy means just that. You don't go around insulting states.
p.s. Here's Poblano on the notion that WV is a "racist state":
I do want to write a little bit more about the notion that West Virginians are racist. The longer version will have to wait until later today or tomorrow. But the short version is: yes, there are racist voters in West Virginia, but there are racist voters in every state. The primary determinant of the extent to which racism tends to be more manifest is education levels, and so the effects may be more noticeable in West Virgnia, a state with poor academic achievement. But there is no reason to believe that West Virgnians are particularly racist, relative to their education levels.
p.p.s. To all you Obama supporters tempted to belittle or insult West Virginia, just remember how annoying it has been when the Clinton camp has done that to Obama states like Idaho and Utah and Mississippi. A 50-state strategy means just that. You don't go around insulting states.
So I'm not the only one who thinks you were wrong. And
by Carnacki on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:56:00 AM PDT
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