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  •  We (38+ / 0-)

    will. I remember when some of us were all a gaga when the GOP primary was underway, thrilled to see them eating their own. I noted then it was wishful thinking to project that forward. Now the shoe is on the other foot, but conservatives are dreaming if they think, after the last eight years, we aren't going to unite against them. And in our case the country is on our side ...

    Read UTI, your free thought forum

    by DarkSyde on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:42:16 AM PDT

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    •  Yep. Agreed. n/t (6+ / 0-)

      "Salvation for a race, nation or class must come from within. Freedom is never granted; it is won. Justice is never given; it is exacted." A. Phillip Randolph

      by Savage on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:44:03 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly! (12+ / 0-)

      This is possibly* the most important election of a generation, perhaps two generations, and I think we all appreciate that.  

      Anyone who has even an ounce of instinct to lean towards the Democratic candidate understands the issues we're facing that make change IMPERATIVE.

      It's still a long way to November.  Look at recent Dem wins in Rep strongholds.  Look at the state of our nation.  Look at the polls [currently on the front page] showing Bob Dole [!] vulnerable in Kansas [!].

      This sleepy nation has woken up and noticed that we've been royally screwed by Bush and his cronies for 8 long years.

      We'll come together.  We'll win.  We'll expand our majority in both the House and the Senate.  We'll mop up local offices in all 50 states -- and we'll take that mandate and tackle some of the truly awful messes that haven't been dealt with for ... 30 years!

      YES WE CAN!

      [* could argue that 2000 was most important, but that's water under the bridge -- never again!]

    •  Those GOP divisions are still there (13+ / 0-)

      A quarter of Republican voters are still voting for other candidates in their primaries, though of course the media never see fit to mention that fact.  The facade of unity has been thrown up to cover their grumbling, and the media narrative has focused on magnifying their beloved Dems in Disarray theme.

      John McCain is bumbling and old, making misstatement after misstatement.  His campaign has been lethargic and inept at raising funds and unifying his party since Superduper Tuesday when he locked up the nomination.  He's going to go down hard in November, and as that becomes unavoidably apparent the long knives are going to come out in his party.

      I'm looking forward to that, because I expect the extremists to have a field day, blaming the "liberal" McCain for defeat by straying from True Conservative Principles.  The Club for Growth and the neocons and the fundy whackjobs will all point fingers and pretend that they themselves are not to blame for the collapse of the party they control.

      Republicans have a very good chance of painting themselves into a very small corner with defeat this year.  We should assist them in whatever ways we can.

      Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

      by Dallasdoc on Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:10:32 AM PDT

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    •  It's about damned time that people here and (16+ / 0-)

      throughout left blogistan started listening to this kind of obvious advice, DS.  

      Many of us have tried, and failed to do more than just raise the ire of the so-partisian-I-can't-see-reality-for-the-screeching crowd.

      Please, y'all.  I ask once again, start TODAY and begin hitting John McCain with all of your venom and leave the "other" Democratic Candidate out of it.

      My diary from April 22nd:

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      Another day, another devalued Dollar. -6.00, -6.21

      by funluvn1 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:18:46 AM PDT

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    •  I will repeat this story (5+ / 0-)

      I've told in other comments in other threads, because it is telling; a friend of mine once supported a particular congressional candidate in the primary of 2006.  He volunteered for the campaign and climbed up in the organization to a relatively high level.  At campaign events, you'd often see him with a headset on, ushering people to and fro, etc.

      He was so ardent in his support that when his candidate lost the primary, he swore that he would never support the winner of the primary.  He was deeply emotionally invested in his candidate and was as unambiguous as you can get immediately after the primary campaign ended that he would never support the candidate that beat his guy.  Never.

      Fast forward a few weeks, I went to see the winner of the primary speak.  Lo and behold, there, up on the stage with a headset on, working for the campaign, ushering people to and fro was my friend.  The same one that just a few weeks earlier would have bet his life that he'd never support the guy he was now working his ass off for.

      Politics is very emotional, especially for those of us that take it most seriously.

      This is why I don't take any stock in any of the polls that are floating around right now that say [Democratic candidate A supporter] will not support [Democratic candidate B] in the general election.

      Those polls feed the media narrative you mention but in reality, mean nothing at this point.  The only reason they ask the question right now is because they know Democrats are engaged and emotionally invested in their respective candidates and will give them the answers that will help them feed their narrative and drive that wedge.

      The decision makers in the traditional media aren't stupid, they just have a very different agenda than the average viewer assumes.

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