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race baiting of the first order
fouls, excesses and immoderate behavior are scored ZERO at Over the Line, Smokey!
by seesdifferent on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:15:22 PM PDT
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the epithet is not what I'd consider the primary connotation of the term, particularly in the South.
And Tom Davis, who is a fairly decent centrist, is a retiring congressman, he doesn't have anyone to "bait."
And if he did, he wouldn't "race bait" in the Hill, which is read by approximately 0% of his constituents.
Have you ever voted for a Democratic nominee? Yes? Then you've voted for one more conservative than Obama.
by Stroszek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:18:20 PM PDT
If you are going to use "dog whistle" politics (and I am starting to loathe that term), you have to direct it at the dogs.
The kind of people who would respond to that comment don't read the newspaper, let alone The Hill.
"You share your young with the wolves of the nation...Theres nothing left til you pray for salvation"Black Rebel Motorcycle Club "American X"
by Steve Singiser on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:29:49 PM PDT
the Uncle Remus stories, by Joel Chandler Harris. To me, tar baby was a sticky situation. Br'er Rabbit was tricked into hitting the tar baby and got stuck. He outsmarted Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox, who laid the trap, by begging them not to throw him in the briar patch. Of course they did. And since rabbits live in the briar patch, Br'er Rabbit outsmarted them.
The US got caught in a tar baby in Iraq.
Joel Chandler Harris (December 9, 1848 – July 3, 1908) was an American journalist born in Eatonton, Georgia who wrote the Uncle Remus stories, including Uncle Remus; His Songs and His Sayings. The Folk-Lore of the Old Plantation. (1880), Nights with Uncle Remus (1881 & 1882), Uncle Remus and His Friends (1892), and Uncle Remus and the Little Boy (1905). The stories, based on the African-American oral storytelling tradition, were revolutionary in their use of dialect and in featuring a trickster hero called Br'er ("Brother") Rabbit, who uses his wits against adversity, though his efforts do not always succeed. The frog is the trickster character in traditional tales in Central and Southern Africa. The stories, which began appearing in the Atlanta Constitution in 1879, were popular among both Black and White readers in the North and South, not least because they presented an idealized view of race relations soon after the Civil War. The first published Brer Rabbit stories were written by President Theodore Roosevelt's uncle, Robert Roosevelt. Paul Reuben wrote, "Joel Chandler Harris was a white man, born of poor parents, who at thirteen left home and became an apprentice to Joseph Addison Turner, a newspaper publisher and plantation owner. It is at this plantation, Turnwold, that Harris first heard the black folktales that were to make him famous." In Mother Tongue, Bill Bryson describes Harris as a "painfully shy newsman" who had a pronounced stammer and was very self-conscious about his illegitimate birth. H. L. Mencken held a less than favorable view of Harris. He wrote: "Once upon a time a Georgian printed a couple of books that attracted notice, but immediately it turned out that he was little more than an amanuensis for the local blacks--that his works were really the products, not of white Georgia, but of black Georgia. Writing afterward as a white man, he swiftly subsided into the fifth rank." [from The Sahara of the Bozart] Among Black American writers, Harris is a highly polarizing figure. Alice Walker accused Harris of "stealing a good part of my heritage" in a searing essay called "Uncle Remus, No Friend of Mine".[1] Toni Morrison wrote a novel called "Tar Baby" based on the folktale recorded by Harris. In interviews, she has claimed she learned the story from family, and owes no debt to Harris. Black folklorist Julius Lester holds a somewhat kinder view of Harris. He sees the Uncle Remus stories as important records of Black Folklore, and has rewritten many of the Harris stories in an effort to elevate the subversive elements over the racist ones. Apart from Uncle Remus, Harris wrote several other collections of stories depicting rural life in Georgia, including Free Joe and the Rest of the World. In 1946, the Walt Disney Company produced a film based on Harris's work, called Song of the South. While critically and commercially successful during its original release and re-releases, the fear of controversy has kept the film from North American release on home video. Wren's Nest, Harris' home in Atlanta, Georgia from 1881 until his death in 1908, is maintained as a National Historic Landmark.
Joel Chandler Harris (December 9, 1848 – July 3, 1908) was an American journalist born in Eatonton, Georgia who wrote the Uncle Remus stories, including Uncle Remus; His Songs and His Sayings. The Folk-Lore of the Old Plantation. (1880), Nights with Uncle Remus (1881 & 1882), Uncle Remus and His Friends (1892), and Uncle Remus and the Little Boy (1905).
The stories, based on the African-American oral storytelling tradition, were revolutionary in their use of dialect and in featuring a trickster hero called Br'er ("Brother") Rabbit, who uses his wits against adversity, though his efforts do not always succeed. The frog is the trickster character in traditional tales in Central and Southern Africa. The stories, which began appearing in the Atlanta Constitution in 1879, were popular among both Black and White readers in the North and South, not least because they presented an idealized view of race relations soon after the Civil War. The first published Brer Rabbit stories were written by President Theodore Roosevelt's uncle, Robert Roosevelt.
Paul Reuben wrote, "Joel Chandler Harris was a white man, born of poor parents, who at thirteen left home and became an apprentice to Joseph Addison Turner, a newspaper publisher and plantation owner. It is at this plantation, Turnwold, that Harris first heard the black folktales that were to make him famous." In Mother Tongue, Bill Bryson describes Harris as a "painfully shy newsman" who had a pronounced stammer and was very self-conscious about his illegitimate birth.
H. L. Mencken held a less than favorable view of Harris. He wrote: "Once upon a time a Georgian printed a couple of books that attracted notice, but immediately it turned out that he was little more than an amanuensis for the local blacks--that his works were really the products, not of white Georgia, but of black Georgia. Writing afterward as a white man, he swiftly subsided into the fifth rank." [from The Sahara of the Bozart]
Among Black American writers, Harris is a highly polarizing figure. Alice Walker accused Harris of "stealing a good part of my heritage" in a searing essay called "Uncle Remus, No Friend of Mine".[1] Toni Morrison wrote a novel called "Tar Baby" based on the folktale recorded by Harris. In interviews, she has claimed she learned the story from family, and owes no debt to Harris. Black folklorist Julius Lester holds a somewhat kinder view of Harris. He sees the Uncle Remus stories as important records of Black Folklore, and has rewritten many of the Harris stories in an effort to elevate the subversive elements over the racist ones. Apart from Uncle Remus, Harris wrote several other collections of stories depicting rural life in Georgia, including Free Joe and the Rest of the World.
In 1946, the Walt Disney Company produced a film based on Harris's work, called Song of the South. While critically and commercially successful during its original release and re-releases, the fear of controversy has kept the film from North American release on home video.
Wren's Nest, Harris' home in Atlanta, Georgia from 1881 until his death in 1908, is maintained as a National Historic Landmark.
As you can see, there are different views of the term.
"Whatever America hopes to bring to pass in the world must first come to pass in the heart of America." --Dwight Eisenhower
by Dragon5616 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:36:03 PM PDT
It's not as bad as if he'd referred to, say, Obama as a tarbaby, but the term itself cannot be divorced from its racist beginnings, no matter how innocent the intended usage. It's like people who try to say the word "pimp" isn't sexist--no way that works.
I want to die like my grandfather, peacefully in my sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
by incertus on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:19:13 PM PDT
by Stroszek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:25:17 PM PDT
and I showed why below. So did the author, but you apparently ignored it. I just used a different source.
by incertus on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:29:24 PM PDT
The tar baby folk tale is the origin of the term and not racist.
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Mitch Gore
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by Lestatdelc on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:31:50 PM PDT
that's a connotation that has emerged in use in the 20th century from the story but the story itself, the origin of the term and the metaphor, is not racist.
The term, in fact, originates from African-American folklore, much of which was transferred from black servants to white children and then generally disseminated throughout the culture without a racist connotation.
It picked up that connotation to the extent that it can be used to refer to an African-American, but as with a lot of other terms that double as epithets, it does not necessarily imply it.
by Stroszek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:35:49 PM PDT
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