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but still nothing up.
"The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information".- Henry Wallace, Vice President under FDR
by LisaZ on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:36:28 AM PDT
Bush appeased al Qaeda and Osama when he diverted from them in Afghanistan. Bush appeased Osama when he took out Saddam Hussein. Bush appeased Osama when he let him escape at Tora Bora. Bush appeases Osama when he goes after Iran. Pretty soon, if its left up to Bush/Cheney, Osama will have a sphere of influence from Pakistan to Iraq! Bush/Cheney are the ones who have lead America's retreat from catching the perpetrators of 9/11. Bush and Cheney are War Criminals. Bush, Cheney, and their cronies should have been in prison, a long time ago.
by leonard145b on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:49:02 AM PDT
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Bush/Cheney, let al Qaeda into Iraq, and then claimed al Qaeda, the group Saddam kept out, will take over Iraq if America withdraws. Bush/Cheney raised al Qaeda in Iraq Saddam kept them out! Who's appeased now?
by leonard145b on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:56:53 AM PDT
by serrano on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:30:39 AM PDT
country by a sitting President of the United States.
He should be served with papers once he lands on American soil!
"To kill one person is murder. To kill thousands is foreign policy." Chinese writer Moh-Tze
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:36:45 AM PDT
......Here's a sample of what's coming Obama's way from BushCo.
Gas prices began their ascent when the "Food for oil" program ended.
by suspiciousmind on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:31:24 AM PDT
just fast-scrolled through the despicable site and its attached blog looking for a name. Zip. Nada. Niente. The "see my profile" link under About Me is blank. "webmaster" is about as much as one gets.
can any of our techies search out info on this? I remember (showing my age) how quickly they tracked down info on "Talon News Service" the web page masquerading as a news service that Jeff Gannon set up under the aegis of GOPusa.
It would be so great to trace this m*th**f**king bit of scurrilous scum back to its source.
Not trying to pass off a task I am unwilling to take on---noooo--- just speaking as one of the many geekily-impaired flowers in the garden.
by Tulip on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:50:53 AM PDT
either shadowed another site or is a trash man during the day with his being able to populate this site with all of that garbage and all so fast.
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:00:20 AM PDT
Dominionist hell: it's not just for Sunday anymore
by dogemperor on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:47:22 AM PDT
Pisseth not off the geek, for the geek shalt work very hard to hunt thee down. :D
Anyways, there is a link on the site to obamatruth.com (which is registered via a different whois anonymising service); this appears to be a dead website (it redirects to a page for parked domain names); the page appears to have been hosted at enom.net before it went down.
We DO hit successful paydirt on a third site associated, exposeobama.com. The website lists as a contact:
ExposeObama.com c/o National Campaign Fund - 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Ste. 600 - Washington, DC 20004 - 202 465-7192 bruce@exposeobama.com
It would appear that this address and phone number have been previously associated with attempts to actively swiftboat Obama and is associated with a Republican PAC; the address also happens to be associated with Jack Abramoff, and also to a number of other pet causes (including pushing for the REAL ID Act and coal industry lobbyists). The phone number itself would appear to be a wireless number (and if someone is arsed to pay the $5.00 to get the records, please post and share it with all of us :D). A look at the staff of the org is especially enlightening in this regard; one of the heads has pretty much exclusively lobbied for dominionist candidates including, most recently, Mike Huckabee. (This becomes important very shortly.)
Whois info for exposeobama.com points to:
Floyd Brown 4224 67th AVE CT W UNiversity Place, WA 98466 US Email: Floydgbrown@gmail.com
Hosting is via netace.com.
There is furthermore an associated Blogspot page which seems to entirely feature dominionist (and yes, these are explicitly skewed towards dominionist claims re Obama being apparently a threat to all Christendom) swiftboating of Obama; it would not be shocking if the page were being done by one of the owners of exposeobama.com (although with no external linkage, this becomes more difficult to prove in practice).
My hunch? Astroturfing by the RNC. Just my two pence, though.
by dogemperor on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:21:31 AM PDT
Good work! Should this be diaried so as to expose these frauds even more?
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:07:18 PM PDT
by dogemperor on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:28:16 PM PDT
....The address was e-mailed to me from one of my "Conservative" "friends". I was one of about thirty people he sent it to.
If half of them send it to thirty more people, well, you see where this election cycle's going.
by suspiciousmind on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:59:44 PM PDT
As it is, the whole "chain letter marketing" has been a big part of GOP strategy, especially as far as astroturfing, for...oh, hell, since Carter lost his re-election bid in 1980, at least. :P
by dogemperor on Thu May 15, 2008 at 02:06:48 PM PDT
by Tulip on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:02:28 AM PDT
before.
I wouldn't even give such a site the benefit of sending traffic there by linking to it. It's pretty trashy in there.
I think I need a bath now.
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:53:13 AM PDT
Shit, we're gonna win this one in a landslide!!
by GOPhuckYourself on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:57:09 AM PDT
Buchanan.
'nuff said...
And, by the way, they have these kind of trashy sites on just about every political official. Search on the Clintons or the McCains and you will find smut there too.
Makes me long for the issues...
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:02:43 AM PDT
No one has emboldened Al Queeda more than bush-cheney..A shameful Nazi display in a foreign country..fukin politks as usual...
"Better a little late, than a little never"..Julian Winston
by Johnny Rapture on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:50:51 AM PDT
because 70% of us want out of Iraq. And, thanks to Jeremy Gray of IU, who notes that Bush has forgotten -
-he is negotiating with North Korea. A member of the "Axis of Evil". -he negotiated with Qadaffi. A former sponsor or terrorism. -Republicans were the American Nazi sympathizers in the late 1930's. -Bush's father got Syria to help the U.S. in the first Gulf war. -Reagan negotiated with the "Evil Empire". -Nixon negotiated with Chairman Mao, who killed 20 million of his own people, and aided North Korea in the Korean War. -The Iranians helped the U.S. in the early days of our conflict with Afghanistan. -FDR collaborated with Stalin to win WWII. -Iran is stronger than ever due to the policies of the Bush administration.
Iran's GDP is smaller than Vermont's. Iran spends less than 1% of what the U.S. does on defense. Iran's 2nd largest export is junk parts. They haven't invaded another country since the 17th century. Iran is not Nazi Germany and could never win a war against Israel and the United States.
"Newspapers are unable, seemingly, to discriminate between a bicycle accident and the collapse of civilization." George Bernard Shaw
by PhotogHog on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:56:54 AM PDT
IT TOOK five years, the deaths of 4,100 US soldiers... to make Iraq safe for Exxon. ~ Derrick Z. Jackson
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:04:12 AM PDT
Different pronounciation there! I read it quickly, sorry.
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:06:48 AM PDT
chimpy's grandfather was a war profiteer who traded with Nazi Germany.
How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? Two. one to hold the giraffe and one to fill the tub with fluorescent toys.
by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:14:39 AM PDT
I do believe that both Prescott Bush and George Walker were guilty of this.
-8.25, -6.26 "I'm not superstitious. But, I AM a little stitious." - Michael Scott
by snookybeh on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:57:06 AM PDT
bottom-feeders, the lot of them.
by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Thu May 15, 2008 at 04:37:09 PM PDT
I looked up who said that quote Pres McBush is using and it’s Sen. William Borah, Republicant from Idaho. Wasn’t the Republican party on the wrong side of WWll?
Do the Republicans want to remind America they are usually wrong?
by zero dittos on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:14:33 AM PDT
If that's the fight the GOP really wants to have, Bush v. Obama with McCain as a sideshow, I'll glady take my chances with the electorate...
The Book of Revelation is not a foreign policy manual.
by Dont Just Stand There on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:02:22 AM PDT
President Bush just placed Impeachment back on the table. Stop screwing around and do your constitutional duty NOW!!!
by Randall Sherman on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:12:42 AM PDT
galvanize the right at a time when we can capitalize on the fracture. That has been the concern since the Clinton impeachment backfired on the GOP-led Congress.
We're getting to a filibuster-proof Congress that can subsequently prosecute them as criminals. I want the WH and am willing to wait if it will better our chances. I know this isn't a popular opinion in our world, but I firmly believe that you can win some battles but still lose the war if you aren't careful!
by ILean Left on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:50:37 AM PDT
The cockroaches will be imprisoned in their Roach Motel soon enough...
Consign corporatism to the dankest crypt, and assign justice to the highest crag. For A More Perfect Union.
by Alohilani on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:21:50 AM PDT
... to bring a vote onto the House floor anyway. The process needs to begin in the House Judiciary Committee now if one is to even consider the matter in the full House after the elections.
by Randall Sherman on Thu May 15, 2008 at 10:13:33 AM PDT
I read yesterday (nyt I think) that Bush had quietly decreased the reward for catching bin Laden. That must have given a lot of comfort to the enemy! Talk about needing to change the subject!
Bush is an appeaser. You're right!
Bush appeased al Qaeda and Osama when he diverted from them in Afghanistan... Bush/Cheney are the ones who have lead America's retreat from catching the perpetrators of 9/11.
Bush appeased al Qaeda and Osama when he diverted from them in Afghanistan...
Bush/Cheney are the ones who have lead America's retreat from catching the perpetrators of 9/11.
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:02:34 AM PDT
gotta keep that deficit down, doncha know?
by GITuck on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:58:22 AM PDT
So I can see what my Republican brother thinks about it.
I was a Republican until they lost their minds, The word 'conservative' means 'discriminatory,' ... It's a form of political discrimination. --- Charles Barkley
by Kimball Cross on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:07:49 AM PDT
Still $ 25 million http://www.fbi.gov/...
As long as you don't take into account of course that the dollar is worth a lot less than it was 7 years ago.
Vote for McCain to continue the fight against al-Qaeda, vote for Obama to finish it. </war>
by Calouste on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:23:03 AM PDT
may not yet be reflected on various websites.
by Gorette on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:42:08 AM PDT
What a dick.
Chimpy McCokespoon and the Apple Dumpling Gang set the world on fire, and they're going to piss all over folks who want to dial us back from the brink of constant war?
Here's a thought, Shrubco. How about focusing on the REAL comfort of a solid economy? The REAL comfort of a legitimate foreign policy? The REAL comfort of the ability to sleep at night because you know we're not torturing people.
"Oh, TV. Is there anything you can't do?" -- Homer Simpson
by Melody Townsel on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:50:08 AM PDT
of Bush's speech. Here is the part that you write about:
Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history. Some people suggest that if the United States would just break ties with Israel, all our problems in the Middle East would go away. This is a tired argument that buys into the propaganda of our enemies, and America rejects it utterly. Israel's population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because America stands with you.
Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.
Some people suggest that if the United States would just break ties with Israel, all our problems in the Middle East would go away. This is a tired argument that buys into the propaganda of our enemies, and America rejects it utterly. Israel's population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because America stands with you.
Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. Horace Mann (and btw, the bike in kayakbiker is a bicycle)
by Kayakbiker on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:53:57 AM PDT
to make a complaint at the Simon Wiesenthal Center
Why?
by David Kroning on Thu May 15, 2008 at 05:59:59 AM PDT
Of the prepared text of the speech
by Kayakbiker on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:00:16 AM PDT
I added this to the diary.
by LisaZ on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:13:38 AM PDT
Tag guidelines instruct that when names are used both the first and last names should be included (with no titles), and in cases like the George Bushes - the middle initials are essential.
======================== Remember that many readers who cannot be on Daily Kos all day bookmark standard tags to make checking for diaries on specific subjects easy. We have also had examples of writers who are not Kossacks using tags to track stories and research the community has uncovered. Tags are an indexing system best served by single words, not phrases. Points off for trying to use them to express creativity.
List of the most used tags.
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by SarahLee on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:19:40 AM PDT
I wasn't trying to be creative; I was in a hurry, and I rarely diary, or even comment anymore. I used to comment regularly, but I got burned out and stopped reading daily.
by LisaZ on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:38:49 AM PDT
Just thought you and other readers might appreciate the links and reminders. Lots of new folks here who don't know.
by SarahLee on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:35:28 AM PDT
but, yeah, there have been a lot of changes...I only found out last week that troll-rating was no longer proper term! Not that it matters...my TU has been gone for ages.
by LisaZ on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:40:21 AM PDT
because I thought you might want to edit your diary to post the source materialfor Bush's vile speech.
The reason I think it's a good idea is because the essay in the link is most obviously, from its language, Bush's (or his speechwriter's) source, and it is an express Obama hate-piece and, as such, points to the underlying intent.
Also, this is going to be the lead in the noon NPR newscast, and the Bushists are denying that it was a slam against Obama in response to Barack's statement of disgust. This linked essay debunks their denial.
"Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you can succeed." -Nancy Pelosi, 6/29/07.
by nailbender on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:53:25 AM PDT
this storyis leading the current BBC "top stories" lineup (which is broadcast on my local NPR noon show).
by nailbender on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:07:43 AM PDT
Could at least ONE reporter ask Chimpy this question?
"We have trouble in the oil states because the President is viewed as favoring cheap energy." ~ George W. Bush in 1992.
by chapel hill guy on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:01:12 AM PDT
"I will ensure that Isreal exists another 600 years in the region...nothing will stop us from defending our most important ally in the region and in the world."
by David Kroning on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:04:20 AM PDT
I have an irrational faith in reason.
by the fan man on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:26:40 AM PDT
anniversary of Israel number-- he couldn't, obviously, say that he would ensure only 60 more years of presence for Israel. It just doesn't sound right. So he said 600 more years. The continuity and the sense are in the shared "6" factor and in the multiples, by factors of 10, of that 6. It makes sense.
by concernedamerican on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:58:07 AM PDT
by the fan man on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:02:30 AM PDT
Very few of today's nation-states were in existence 600 years ago. The likelihood is good that the US and/or Israel will be gone in 600 years. Obama's remark makes sense only by the standards of the remarkable Israel-pandering that is the norm these days, to the detriment of everyone.
by No Preference on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:45:03 AM PDT
Nothing will exist to stop Israel from existing for 600 or 5,000 years. Only a few, increasingly-marginalized crazies (like Hamas, who oppose a Jewish state on principal) will remain.
"I wouldn't trade one stupid decision / for another five years of life." -- LCD Soundsystem
by tomjones on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:58:16 AM PDT
administrative division of the Terran Star Empire, but anyways. ;P
"Furthermore, I think Nader should be destroyed!"
by Zebras on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:53:30 AM PDT
About a third of the posters here, the I/P threads can be brutal.
by YoursTruly on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:04:23 AM PDT
the Obama campaign or the Democratic Party.
by inclusiveheart on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:11:37 AM PDT
suggested that the US should break ties with Israel. That person has a friend that is active in Hamas. A person with Hamas ties has said that Obama might be a better promoter of US policies and promote peace better than McCain.
So there you have it. The connection with Obama. He's guilty as charged (snark)
by Kayakbiker on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:21:38 AM PDT
corporate media its meme for the next five weeks . . .
As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. - Justice William O. Douglas
by occams hatchet on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:46:10 AM PDT
suggest that, and what does that have to do with intellectual property?
*running*
No laws but Liberty. No king but Conscience.
by oldjohnbrown on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:56:06 AM PDT
I'd warrant that very few, if any, of Israel's critics here have advised breaking ties with Israel in the sense of breaking diplomatics relations.
If by "breaking ties" one means cutting aid or being occasionally critical of Israel, OK.
by No Preference on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:50:59 AM PDT
When Bush has no real data to base his blathering on he and his speech trolls seem to just pull things out of each other's fundaments. This is a good example. To date I have not heard any American political figure suggest abandoning Israel. I have heard reasoned criticism, but is that the same as abandoning them? Only in Chimp World.
When he stands to speak it truly is a BLATHERING STORM
by arthura on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:28:48 AM PDT
... and their sophistry deliberately aimed. They have -- and use -- a genius for propaganda, and propaganda's little helper, rhetoric.
Blather is random. GOPaganda is specific, studied, sharpened, launched, and tracked.
Two war crimes make 'the right', not 'a right'. Defeat the liar John McCain.
by Yellow Canary on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:36:37 AM PDT
and the reason why bush choosing this occassion to 'stump' bothers me.
Pardon me for seeing a murder conspiracy behind every bush speech, But this just seems out of the ordinary.
And ice the cake with this little tidbit:
As Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert greeted Bush aides, he was asked by National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley how he was doing. "Holding on, holding on," Olmert told Hadley as his comment was picked up by an open mic. "Don't worry."
As Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert greeted Bush aides, he was asked by National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley how he was doing.
"Holding on, holding on," Olmert told Hadley as his comment was picked up by an open mic. "Don't worry."
Why should he be telling Hadley not to worry? Worry about what? Why should Hadley care if Olmert is taken down by the corruption charges?
This all messes with my mind.
Contact Pelosi about impeachment: AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
by Pescadero Bill on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:14:47 AM PDT
... What illumination a years worth of messages in his "Sent" box would provide.
by Yellow Canary on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:42:50 AM PDT
...just by burning all the strawmen created by the Rethuglicans.
you were sick, but now you're well again and there's work to do- vonnegut
by zzyzx on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:54:01 AM PDT
Lousy Bowlers for Obama
by paintitblue on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:07:51 AM PDT
who continually rains down death and destruction on all he surveys. It's his DNA.
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:12:30 AM PDT
worked up over Chimpy being a shithead and a stooge, even overseas, doesn't get me upset. Attacking Iran will get me upset.
by the fan man on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:38:55 AM PDT
somewhere, the idea of breaking ties with Israel. Perhaps he heard this idea from Mr. Ahmadinejad of Iran. Probably a few in the US has suggested this as well. Realistically, the numbers who would support this position in the US are small, I believe. So, Bush is speaking with hyperbole here, to the Israeli government. To his discredit.
by Knarfc on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:02:54 AM PDT
It turns out that Bush IS a uniter... he united the good half of the country virulently against him.
by fizziks on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:25:45 AM PDT
nullifies the argument of the accurate second one.
by YoursTruly on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:03:00 AM PDT
going after Bush now citing GHWB's negotiations with Quaddafi who was a "terrorist" he stressed.
Now he is talking about Bush's negotiations with North Korea - which he points out is a "state sponsor of terroism".
Buchanan has annihilated Bush's comments. It is a riot.
by inclusiveheart on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:07:55 AM PDT
also tore up Bush for criticizing a Presidential candidate on foreign soil, and worse, in the Israeli Knesset! Once in a while, not often, Buchanan nails it.
by bigforkgirl on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:14:47 AM PDT
Make no mistake, the enemies of our enemies !-- friends.
He just wants to be where Bush II is, but was defeated by Bush I, so he'll tear him (and the rest of the GOP who dissed him) down every chance he gets, out of his gnawing bitter envy. As an Old Loser, he has nothing more to lose by pointing out their screwups, unlike Bobo Brooks et al who still hope to gain favor from the upper eschelons of the GOP.
"Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)
by bellatrys on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:08:53 AM PDT
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:19:39 AM PDT
I officially call Godwin on Dubya.
McCain = Death. "I'm tired of being afraid." -- Michelle Obama
by Pris from LA on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:12:04 AM PDT
he appears to be a rational being.
However his blog comments on race turned me off forever from caring what he thought. To me he seems to be all over the place. He seems like a diehard conservative for a period of time and then becomes suddenly rational.
My only explanation is not a kind one, but after the guy who talked up "No Child..." was exposed to be doing it for $$, I always wonder who is paying the piper. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
by Gorette on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:18:16 AM PDT
Not that the US was directly involved as a partner in that, but they sponsored the talks.
And you know what? IT WORKED! The violence in Northern Ireland has ended. Yes children, talking with terrorists can work.
by Calouste on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:27:50 AM PDT
Buchanan was listing Bush I and Bush II negotiations that seemed to fly in the face of the BS Bush articulated today.
by inclusiveheart on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:46:28 AM PDT
Update at 9:06 [p.m. sic] ET: Just yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates called for an increase in unofficial contacts between the United States and Iran, saying that would "create some space." "We need to figure out a way to develop some leverage ... and then sit down and talk with them," Gates says, according to The Washington Post. "If there is going to be a discussion, then they need something, too. We can't go to a discussion and be completely the demander, with them not feeling that they need anything from us."
Update at 9:06 [p.m. sic] ET: Just yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates called for an increase in unofficial contacts between the United States and Iran, saying that would "create some space."
"We need to figure out a way to develop some leverage ... and then sit down and talk with them," Gates says, according to The Washington Post. "If there is going to be a discussion, then they need something, too. We can't go to a discussion and be completely the demander, with them not feeling that they need anything from us."
Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson
by bumblebums on Thu May 15, 2008 at 06:11:54 AM PDT
I'd think it would be a famous quote if it had been said, but I can't find who said it. Is it an urban legend?
There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don't. -- Robert Benchley -5.75, -7.18
by Rogneid on Thu May 15, 2008 at 07:52:58 AM PDT
A Republican. See this MSNBC story:
Bush's remarks appear to be a reference to the late Sen. William Borah "who, on hearing of the Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939, lamented: 'Lord, if only I could have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided.'"
The same story also points out that Gates, Bush's Secretary of Defense, also wants talks with Iran.
American foreign policy is NOT a Viagra substitute.
by DanK Is Back on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:01:27 AM PDT
Wiki lists the quote as being attributed to him; so why is it always referred to as "an American senator" and not Borah?
Just sayin'
by Rogneid on Thu May 15, 2008 at 08:01:33 AM PDT
...can let their base/followers/whatever erroneously think it was a Democrat who said it because "everyone" knows that a Republican wouldn't say something like that.
by vacantlook on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:01:35 AM PDT
Piggy backing the Holocaust and Nazis onto his speech to score purely political points against Democrats? And in front of Jews, no less?
May he rot in hell.
