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Jabberwonk! Reality Based Liberal Link Dump
by Jimmy Crackcorn on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:08:07 PM PDT
It's not a campaign. It's a movement. Will you stand up?
by danthrax on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:14:01 PM PDT
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John McCain: Crash Test Dummy
by kubla000 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:23:37 PM PDT
This is terrifically damning material. McCain is going to get hammered over and over until November with stuff just like this.
There is only one presidential candidate.
by OutOfManyOne on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:38:17 PM PDT
This diary could lay out a Greatest Hits of Newly Found Goldmines...
Via the JedReport
by Steven R on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:41:40 PM PDT
And keep it recced for weeks. Really.
If even half the condemning evidence we've gathered in the last few weeks reaches traditional media or YouTube viral status, we'll have done tremendous damage to McLame.
But more importantly, we'll have sown some mighty powerful seeds for the coming months' harvest.
by OutOfManyOne on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:58:57 PM PDT
of the rethugs.
Everything is funny as long as it is happening to somebody else. --Will Rogers
by groggy on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:17:11 AM PDT
Are they suddenly the stepchildren of the Republican undoing? After all those years of hard work they put in for that cause?
Vote for McCain to continue the fight against al-Qaeda, vote for Obama to finish it. </war>
by Calouste on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:32:47 AM PDT
the videotape and facts.
by mmacdDE on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:13:31 AM PDT
http://digg.com/...
"Invest In America, Instead of Iraq. Vote Democratic"
by manumit on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:54:23 AM PDT
I happen to have spent parts of my career in the PR Spin business and I note with sick amusement that McCain only said that Reagan never met with the Iranians face to face.
A casual listener will hear that as "Reagan had no contact with the Iranians"........
Ha ha ha ....Obfuscation. Masterful. Like Reagan's 'confession'....
Note: 1980 was a coup against American Democracy.....Iran-Contra? One feature was to prevent the hostages coming home under the Carter Administration...and to keep them hostage as a way to manipulate voter opinion against Carter.
Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990
by LNK on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:35:58 AM PDT
Opinions are like assholes. I spend way too much time looking at them on the internet.
by homunq on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:48:30 AM PDT
Someone had a comment on a related diary raising a question on the dates of different events. Let's make sure that the dates line up before setting ourselves for something like Dan Rather's expose of Bush's disservice in the National Guard.
I don't profess to be an authority on the history of the Iran hostage crisis, and Contra-gate but they seem to be separated by a few years, so we need to make sure that the events and dates line up and are not pointing to different time periods and events...
Just my 2 cents ....
There is a lot of good info, we just need to check and double check before we go forward. We have to be vigilant not to fall into a trap like CBS and Dan Rather fell into ....
Old style politics of 50%+1 will NOT get us to where we need to go!!
by SpringFever on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:52:34 AM PDT
Well said, SpringFever. What McBush was implying (erroneously) was that the Iranian nutjobs let the American hostages go just as Reagan became president because they -- the nutjobs -- were afraid of big bad Ronnie. [The truth is that they simply hated Carter, and only Carter, for his having let the Shah into the U.S.; with Carter gone, they had completed the humiliation. They didn't give a rat's ass about Reagan one way or the other.] This had nothing to do with Iranscam, Oliver North, etc.. I usually am a huge fan of Jed Report videos, but I think this one misses the mark.
Electing conservatives is like hiring a carpenter who thinks hammers are evil.
by bwintx on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:00:00 AM PDT
Bush 1 was right there with Casey and other criminals, making sure there was no "October Surprise" release of the hostages.
"Saint Ronnie" wanted to make sure he could slink into office and start tearing down this country with the aide of Bubbles Greenslime and the whole rotten gang.
by MD patriot on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:31:00 AM PDT
role GHW and Casey might have played in delaying the release of the hostages for their political gain. I think it is very plausible that they would have done it though I don't profess to say that it is so.
JedReport is an amazing resource and asset to expose news that sheds light on confusing issues or correcting distortions created by other politicians or news media. My comment in no way was targetted at JedReport who I have the highest respect for the job he does.
The main point of my comment was a heads up to check the timelines and facts before we proceed too far in developing this angle of attack.
by SpringFever on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:00:05 AM PDT
He needs to stop quoting the prophet that I'm named after in a misleading way! I'm pretty sure that Jeremiah would have been angry about the holocaust. What a piece of shit!
Do people actually give this guy money?
Tie that in with the comments people sent to Kos yesterday, and I'm realizing that this country needs to take a pill more than I thought.
Nutty. Good finds. Thanks for the motivation.
Fired up!
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac. -Orwell
by Fight or Die on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:45:00 AM PDT
Oh wait. We have nothing but LIBERAL REPORTERS working in a LIBERAL MEDIA here in America!! How could I have forgotten that?
by hopalong on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:00:03 AM PDT
And the MSM will give him a pass. Just like Hagee and all the other bullshit lies he gets away with.
With a big ol' lie And a flag and a pie And a mom and a bible Most folks are just liable To buy any line Any place, any time ~ FZ
by f furney on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:22:10 AM PDT
sooner or later one media outlet will "break" the news and get huge ratings then the flood gates will open, as one of the old and real journalist explained the MSM business works like a 6 y/o soccer game where all the players run together following the ball.
MSM is not paying attention to JMC, they are riveted by the battle between bigotry vs sexism (that they created) taking place in the Dem party.
One of my first comments in DKos was that JMC penchant of talking to media outlets 24/7 for 20 years will be his undoing he really has been on both sides of every issue and is on tape and is there is something the GOPers base hate is flip-flopping, why do you think GWB still gets over 60% of GOP support b/c he doesn't change his positions, how hard would it be to convince them that any promise from JMC is just empty rhetoric
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
by IamTheJudge on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:55:37 AM PDT
he really has been on both sides of every issue and is on tape and is there is something the GOPers base hate is flip-flopping
It's not flip-flopping they hate. They hate Democrats, "liberals," taxes, immigrants, etc. The flip-flopping charge is just a tool to smear their opponents. The content of the charge is irrelevant, and such a charge leveled against McCain would have no more effect with the base than calling him old or white.
It's why Hagee doesn't give the right-wing noise machine hives. It isn't what a pastor (or a candidate) says, it's strictly who says it. There is no pretense at consistency or principles that would apply no matter the politics. It's all politics, and the "charges" are just words.
This is the lesson of the Chris Matthews video; Matthews ambushed his right-wing loudmouth guest by demanding that he go beyond the word "appeaser" and explain what Chamberlain did to gain that label. The intent was to draw a distinction between negotiating with an enemy, which is not appeasement, and giving things to the enemy in the hope that he will be satisfied, which is. The guest had no clue; the currency of that kind of political discourse consists of nothing but labels. History, facts, and consistency are not part of the game.
by uffdalib on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:16:37 AM PDT
between the GOP party operative and most GOP supporters, for the operatives, their megaphone in the media and many supporters, yes hate is their motivation and tool, they don't have a leg to stand in most issues and by themselves can not win an election, but there is a reason why voter identification with the GOP is at an all time low and why several noted conservatives are calling for a revolution in the GOP, the GOP of today flip flopped on every conservative principle from small govt to financial restrain even the evangelicals are tired of getting shaft.
The GWB's GOP stands for nothing is an empty carcass full of labels and many conservatives both "economic" and "value" voters realize that. There is a reason why they are call conservatives.
by IamTheJudge on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:22:36 AM PDT
He rails against Secular Humanism.......He loves Israel......
Doesn't he know the degree to which Israel is a Secular Humanist nation? Zionism was founded to create a safe place for all Jews, both religious and non-religious!
Actually, I am not sure that "Secular Humanism" isn't dog whistle code for something else...when it's out of the mouth of the Hagees of this world. I think they mean "God hating atheists" but won't say it. ?
by LNK on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:28:49 AM PDT
That's right, actually, that's the usual term when they're describing a moral code which isn't god-centred (and how could that be?).
by reenactor on Fri May 16, 2008 at 03:40:06 AM PDT
Otherwise I agree with you.
Until the economy recovers, I'll settle for cheap laughs
by Clyde the Cat on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:37:12 AM PDT
Rev. Wright is a good man who occasionally says things that are a little over the top. But a good percentage of what he said is dead on accurate.
Hagee and Parsley, on the other hand, are nothing but evil, mean-spirited slimebags.
Wright believes attacks on the U.S. are caused partly because of our foreign policy. Hagee, Parsley, Falwell, Robertson, and their ilk believe attacks on the U.S. are caused partly because of us allowing "homosexuals to thrive in this country."
They wanna compare preachers? Fine by me!
"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." -- Noam Chomsky
by ratmach on Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:03:01 AM PDT
by concernedamerican on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:15:51 AM PDT
Olbermann will see it.
He and/or his staff definitely monitor what we say here.
Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D. 89 days until the '08 elections. Let's paint the country BLUE!
by TrueBlueMajority on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:29:58 AM PDT
What does LIEberman have to say to these lovely videos...
by ask on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:09:12 AM PDT
explanation, I'll give a try
"JMC was hopeful that Hamas now in govt will renounce violence and with that Hamas everyone could talk"
See. easy when you don't have ethics is very to lie your ass off
by IamTheJudge on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:18:21 AM PDT
Here.
You, sir, are a like a Hitler burrito, wrapped in a Mao fajita, with low-sodium Stalin sauce.| Strategy08.
by turneresq on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:40:19 PM PDT
:) Tipped and Recc'd
by ZZZzzz on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:09:07 AM PDT
by Voodoo king on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:57:28 AM PDT
Is anyone else laughing at all of this? I sure hope more and more American people are starting to finally see, what some of us have seen for a long time!
by vixenflem on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:55:51 AM PDT
I wish I had more to give. Excellent research!
He just makes it up as he goes along,doesn't he? He should know by now that going along with the Chimpster doesn't work out very well.
Rupert Murdoch is on the Associated Press Board of Directors!!!
by Lava20 on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:17:05 PM PDT
because he thinks (and his staff likely thinks) that Obama makes it up as he goes along.
He doesn't. Everything, every move, is anticipated and planned for, it's just a matter of deciding what piece needs to be used.
If you (and your team) are really good at planning, and know what you're doing, it just LOOKS like you make it up as you go along.
by mmacdDE on Fri May 16, 2008 at 05:18:01 AM PDT
here. However, that one doesn't have the video embedded or even a link to it.
I really think we should spread this story around and get it on the rec list. May I suggest a catchier title? "McCain was for talking to Hamas before he was against it" ?
Obama/Kennedy '08
by Yirmiyahu on Thu May 15, 2008 at 11:20:51 PM PDT
for the swift boating they did on Senator Kerry in 2004. I second you suggestion that the title should be "McCain was for talking to Hamas before he was against it".
That would be a great line for Obama's campaign and the Democratic Party to take up against McBush!
by SpringFever on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:57:57 AM PDT
but that's ok. Just glad it's getting play.
"You're mother was a hampster..." - Guilt By Association!
by Josselyn on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:40:07 AM PDT
Or just his marbles?
"If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK - January 20, 1961
by rontun on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:00:04 AM PDT
by drizek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:26:51 AM PDT
by f furney on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:26:53 AM PDT
At times like this, I feel sorry for whomever is going up against the combined power of the intertubez this year. Great find!
John McCain's Court will overturn Roe; don't kid yourself.
by Seneca Doane on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:09:23 AM PDT
page A19 of the Post---not so many see it there. It's up to us to get these lies out there.
The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama
by Phil S 33 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:35:00 AM PDT
really seems to be the place where good stories go to die. Or where reports of war deaths are relegated to.
by conlakappa on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:26:43 AM PDT
for the flip flop. And after it gets shot down, I'm sure he'll come up with a few more good explanations to explain why it was so easy to shoot down.
Thou shalt not kill except for a long list of good reasons is like saying you should not covet your neighbor's wife unless she's hot.
by FudgeFighter on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:11:08 AM PDT
"The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government" - Thomas Jefferson
by markthshark on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:34:53 AM PDT
by SpringFever on Fri May 16, 2008 at 12:59:31 AM PDT
by concernedamerican on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:15:29 AM PDT
For this find!!!
WOOOO HOOOOOO
The hypocrite Express hobbles on!
"People should not vote for any Republican, because they're dangerous, dishonest and self-serving"
by Wary on Fri May 16, 2008 at 04:47:28 AM PDT
Which is it? Let the voters decide!
Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.
by Happy Days on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:07:09 AM PDT
by Clyde the Cat on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:31:40 AM PDT
Lousy Bowlers for Obama
by paintitblue on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:08:17 AM PDT
"I don't belong to any organized party, I'm a Democrat." Will Rogers
by Do Tell on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:24:29 AM PDT
The old John McCain, it appears, was ready to do business with a Hamas-led government
Bolded for redundancy. =)
"I wouldn't trade one stupid decision / for another five years of life." -- LCD Soundsystem
by tomjones on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:27 AM PDT
click to learn about Single Payer Health Care
by DrSteveB on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:53:14 AM PDT
The definition of insanity is voting the same way and expecting a different result. I'm talking to you FL,OH, KY, WV!
by Shhs on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:18:39 AM PDT
How is just agreeing to sit down and talk with an enemy -- something Israel has done with Egypt, Syria, the Palestinians – the same as the leader of one big power (Neville Chamberlain) trying to appease another (Hitler) power by signing away the independence other some third party country (Czechoslovakia; Poland).
Again Israel has negotiated with enemies. But Bush goes to Israel to say don't. That is who you negotiate with. You don’t have to negotiate with your friends.
Also: Flip Flopper McCain ran against Romney for suggesting even a vague long-term endpoint (like his own 2013 claim yesterday).
by DrSteveB on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:22:14 AM PDT
wide narrow
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