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Israel has Desalinization technology so good they have to "dirty up" the water. Seems this really needs to be exported to Sub-Sahara
Saying the Iraq "Surge" worked is like saying Thelma & Louise had a flying car.
by JML9999 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:48:51 AM PDT
it would certainly help.
Sic Transit Gloria Locavore!
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:50:21 AM PDT
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For example, in West Africa, there is plenty of water, but almost no irrigation and water control systems.
On the other hand, such technology would be valuable in Eastern and Southern Africa, where there is much less rainfall. The problem is then delivery to the land. In Israel, you don't have to go that far to deliver the water to the arable land, since it is such a small country. And even that delivery is assisted by a much better developed infrastructure.
Finally, much more needs to be done about post-harvest delivery. The lack of infrastructure (especially road transport - don't even talk about RRs, they just don't exist) in much of sub-Suharan Africa limits the ability not only to deliver seed to the arable land, but getting the harvested product to market.
Now, I've just realized that I've been discussing all the problems in a diary which is supposed to be positive. Not trying to hijack, just point out that a great deal still needs to be done. The G8 need to look at the problems as a gestalt, and not try to solve them piecemeal.
But the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.
John McCain - Practicing the old style of politics for the past 72 years!
by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:25:17 AM PDT
types currently running G8 Nations these days
by JML9999 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:27:51 AM PDT
Results of quick googling.
US--George Bush: ESTP. UK--Gordon Brown: ISTJ. Canada--Stephen Harper: No type found. Russia--Vladimir Putin: Various (ENTP, ENTJ, INTJ, ISTJ). France--Sarkozy: No type found. Italy--Berlusconi: ESTP. Germany--Merkel: INTJ (I trust this one as far as I could throw the DKos servers). Japan--Fukuda: No type found.
The ESTPs are definitely not Gestalt thinkers; neither is the ISTJ. The INTJs and ENTJs are. So, is it any surprise that Putin is drinking Bush's milkshake?
"Iraq: the bravest 1% fighting for the richest 1%." ~ An Unknown Kossack.
by Neon Vincent on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:06:44 PM PDT
... all thinkers. If there were more feelers, this problem would have been handled much more proactively.
If you like Iraq, you're gonna love Iran.
by FundaMental Transformation on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:50:49 AM PDT
Check out this article on the MBTIs of the presidents since 1960. All of them have been ESTP, ESFP, ESTJ, or ESFJ. Not an iNtuitive in the bunch (the last one was probably Eisenhower, who was ENTJ or INTJ).
by Neon Vincent on Sun May 18, 2008 at 02:40:24 PM PDT
I mean, it is water. Pipelines could be built in a matter of months to take it inland. Couldn't they?
by NoMoreNicksLeft on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:16:33 PM PDT
In addition to not having the road infrastructure (how do you get the materials to the pipeline), how do you maintain.? Also, local people will tap into the pipeline (not that you can blame them). How do you ensure that there is enough pressure?
These questions are part of the essence of sustainable development. You have to take a "Murphy's Law" approach.
by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:52:12 PM PDT
The the local people wouldn't have to "tap in"... that the whole point would be that they'd get a connection to this.
Obviously, you'd have to train them to maintain the pipeline themselves, and build a road along it for maintenance, which itself is valuable infrastructure.
I'm not an engineer, mind you. But having enough pressure, etc, seems like a solvable problem. I know it wouldn't be easy, but surely this stuff isn't insurmountable.
by NoMoreNicksLeft on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:55:32 PM PDT
might happen all along the line of the pipeline --- this has happened with oil pipelines.
Then there's a distribution problem from the end of the pipeline to the people -- many of the governments in sub-Saharan Africa are ummm.... not the most efficient.
Now up: What are you reading?
by plf515 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 04:29:00 AM PDT
I did not know that. Is it expensive, or energy-intensive to run?
Sweet are the uses of adversity...[Find] tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, Sermons in stones, and good in everything. -Shakespeare, As You Like It
by earicicle on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:13:04 PM PDT
OT, I met your cousin last night, a Begley from Ballydavid. He has all the info on all of those who have migrated to the USA. Email me at aaf@politicook.net to give me the names of your granny etc...
You will have to pay them a visit, lovely people.
by Asinus Asinum Fricat on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:17:08 PM PDT
Will send you an e!
by earicicle on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:45:10 PM PDT
http://www.water-technology.net/...
Ashkelon Desalination Plant, Seawater Reverse Osmosis (SWRO) Plant, Israel, Israel The Ashkelon seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) plant – the largest in the world – achieved two notable successes in 2006. In March it was voted 'Desalination Plant of the Year' in the Global Water Awards, subsequently passing a major project milestone in October 2006, when, little more than a year after it commenced initial production, it successfully delivered its first 100 million m3 of water. With a capacity of 320,000m3 per day, the plant produces around 13% of the country's domestic consumer demand – equivalent to 5–6% of Israel's total water needs – at one of the world's lowest ever prices for desalinated water.
Ashkelon Desalination Plant, Seawater Reverse Osmosis (SWRO) Plant, Israel, Israel
The Ashkelon seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) plant – the largest in the world – achieved two notable successes in 2006. In March it was voted 'Desalination Plant of the Year' in the Global Water Awards, subsequently passing a major project milestone in October 2006, when, little more than a year after it commenced initial production, it successfully delivered its first 100 million m3 of water.
With a capacity of 320,000m3 per day, the plant produces around 13% of the country's domestic consumer demand – equivalent to 5–6% of Israel's total water needs – at one of the world's lowest ever prices for desalinated water.
http://www.businessweek.com/...
by JML9999 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:21:36 PM PDT
Thanks for the info!
by earicicle on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:46:03 PM PDT
McCain = Death. "I'm tired of being afraid." -- Michelle Obama
by Pris from LA on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:18:09 PM PDT
wide narrow
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