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on your new journey. DC, up close and personal,is draining and debilitating. What is, is not--more often than I care to think. The deals within deals are more than most of us can stomach. Yes, you must leave and refresh your resources. Perhaps from a greater distance, and locally, you can do what you need to do.
by bigforkgirl on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:37:57 AM PDT
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:39:32 AM PDT
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We moved from England to the most northern part of New York. We live on 35 acres of lovely fields and woods with a thousand acres of state land behind that.Our house is a living 150 year old farm house with attached barns.
Most of our neighbours are Amish. Most of the traffic on the road is horse and buggy. We grow our own organic veggies and our neighbours have an organic veggie business and a small organic farm respectively.
We are 20 miles from the nearest small town and love the peace and quiet.
We paid $50,000 for the whole shebang 5 years ago. Summers are dry and average in the 70's winters are cold but doable. You could do worse than check out this area. We are an hour from Ottawa for culture. 2 from Montreal and European influence.
by telfish on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:22:51 AM PDT
sounds like you're up in that region. Beautiful summers! Brutal winters, but cross-country skiing is great. Is Birdsfoot still operating?
"All of us -- as citizens and as a government -- have a moral responsibility to each other, and what we do together matters." J.R.E., 1/30/08
by MaskedKat on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:50:55 AM PDT
We are north of Canton towards Black Lake. We can be in Canada in half an hour, Never heard of Birdsfoot. what is it?
As you say the winters can be cold, however if you like cross country skiing or snowshoeing it's great.
Hiking in the Adirondacks is superb in the summer months, plus we have the St Lawrence river to boat and fish on.
Must say the pace of life is restful here. Sometimes frustrating when you have to do satellite for your Internet. It's a great place for off grid living, the ground water is pure, the air is crystal clear and good to breathe.
Did you go to Uni in Canton?
by telfish on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:57:47 AM PDT
was (is?) a functioning commune and organic farm. Some very interesting folks lived there.
I taught briefly at SLU. It was just a tough place to be for a young, single person!
by MaskedKat on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:00:42 AM PDT
is a place with a geodesic dome then it's still there. This area is full of people who have dropped out of conventional society. There are many artists writers and creative types doing their own thing.
The people are in the main friendly and cheerful. The Amish are without exception positive, people with a great living ethic, we love to live near them and share with them.
Norther NY is not a place for a young man with a life ahead of him. There is a whole world out there to discover. I am fortunate to have travelled and discovered most of Europe, the middle east, Asia and sundry other outposts before landing in America.
Would I want to live anywhere else. Hell No. I love America even though it is not my Birthplace. I could live anywhere in Europe if I so choose. I do not choose.
We need to take this country back for it's people. I met Obama in Texas this winter. He IS the man to do it I believe. Don't leave just get stuck in.
by telfish on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:19:08 AM PDT
for as long as you two like. Also, welcome are the collegiates.
You know how much we love you guys, and Richard and the guys can sail all summer, while our offspring get and advanced education in activist parents and their friends.
It's a nice stop on the way to Canada and as you know, we also live in the part of the US that has a goodly number of sane type people, and you know we are also considering moving to Canada to get the offspring a better math and science education than is available here.
Come, visit, sail, hike, eat, drink, dance, heal, talk, and be loved.
You don't have to knock, just come in.
Subverting the dominant paradigm every chance I get. And I get a lot of chances.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:24:39 AM PDT
a more open and unconditional invitation and offer for a "hand up" in my 45 years. Casey, you are an amazing person, and I can only strive to attain this sort of openness and caring.
NFTT Progressively supporting the troops
by Timroff on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:50:09 AM PDT
it's Richard and Karen. If you knew them, you'd beg them to come live with you, too. They are amazing people who have dedicated their whole lives to making things better for others. With them, you learn, teach, laugh and love. All of the great things that remind us of our common humanity on a daily basis.
Thanks so much for your kind words, Timroff. Part of it is me, much of it is due to Richard and Karen, and a lot is due to my parents and the way I was raised. We had activists and lots of interesting people or just people who needed help or a stop on the way to somewhere else in our house all of the time growing up.
What's a house, anyway? It's just shelter for people. A home, on the other hand, is about the people who love and live there and sharing what you have with others. I blame these dangerous and radical views on my parents. :)
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:59:46 AM PDT
I am a third-generation activist and I grew up during the Vietnam era surrounded by artists, poets, musicians and rabble-rousers, so I understand where you're coming from there...
by Timroff on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:22:10 AM PDT
my friend.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:28:29 AM PDT
She's been inviting me for ages as well. I'm still hoping to accept your delicious invitation.
And when Casey says, "Our home is yours", she really means it.
Tell your healthcare and insurance horror stories at Guaranteed Healthcare
by nyceve on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:22:12 AM PDT
Spring gardens are in blossom. Come up whenever you need respite from the fight.
Darn straight I mean it.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:27:08 AM PDT
You must go and visit her. The food is amazing! The rooms well cared for! The adorable child amusing! My son is ready to move in because one time, Casey fed him roast beef AND lamb chops in the SAME MEAL.
Go.
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:29:31 AM PDT
just about made Richard weep...
Good times.
That was the fall food.
Now we are into spring harvest--fresh handpicked lettuces, chicken and wild rice with juniper berry sauce, and on the odd chilly days we have the root vegetable puree soups with touches of mysterious Indian spices, fresh warm grilled bread rubbed with green garlic and spanish olive oil, the last of the winter pears poached with red wine and creme fraiche with honey from down the road.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:39:34 AM PDT
Are you also a chef?
The problem is, if I come, I may never leave.
by nyceve on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:50:20 AM PDT
I would have to be moved out by a tractor bucket! If I came, I would have to come with jeans 5 sizes bigger! Do you do B&B?
by PinHole on Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:14:24 AM PDT
I live in the midst of orchards by the river in horse country, so there's plenty of sports to do here all of the time.
Fresh food, fresh air--and while I don't have a B and B per se, cause I'm waaayyy to frickin' lazy for that, we just like having people come and visit and relax and regenerate.
We're pretty much up for anything, and we have the NYC ballet here in July and the Philadelphia philharmonic here in August (uh, not at my house...about 20 minutes away).
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:35:59 PM PDT
come, stay, leave when you feel recharged. That's what most people do, and whenever folks go, we generallly aren't ready for them to leave, no matter how long they've been here.
Also, we dance after dinner most every night. Long walks in the morning with the doggies.
We're pretty low drama here.
Oh, and I used to cater. My brother is an executive chef and my brother in law comes and cooks, too. We blend our own wines, and just generally have family type fun.
Mellow, whatever. We like politics, good food and kindness. You'd fit right in.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:39:13 PM PDT
Is Casey also a chef?!
by nyceve on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:49:07 AM PDT
Well, she is a force of nature. And she channels nature on the bountiful front.
As a chef, she is caring and concerned about every morsel. There are no bad meals there.
Did I mention that you will laugh until you pee?
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:58:18 AM PDT
Some dishes are more inspired than others, and if you come during Saratoga racing season, you are likely to get a meal cooked by a few people coming over afterwards, someone doing salads, someone grilling, someone at the bar.
When we put our home together, we really did it with having people visit in mind. We feel very grateful that people are willing to take the time and energy to travel to see us, and nothing is ever so much fun as when its shared.
As for being a chef...some meals are more inspired than others, but they are all healthy, no crap and the key here is, I LOVE to feed people. Truly, it's a pleasure, and whoever comes here, becomes family. Um, that's probably a warning :)
by Casey Morris on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:17:53 AM PDT
the food was 'delisc' and she adored Casey, hubby, and their little one.
Most importantly, my offspring felt loved and cared for by Casey and her family.
Truly wonderful people.
And Casey has worked magic on me, personally. She turned me from a steel magnolia into a fierce lion. Some may not consider it good... but, in some circumstances, it's been effective!
:-)
by Silence is Complicity on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:34:55 AM PDT
you have always been a force to be reckoned with. The only difference is, now you know it, too. And it wasn't that did the changing, it was you. You have all the magic you need, and then some, sweetie.
As for your offspring, you know, anytime you want, you are all welcome here. Your offspring is lovely and we had a lovely time.
by Casey Morris on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:20:34 AM PDT
I think you know how to read me by now. ;-)
Anyways, since you bring it up... I was thinking about getting away and getting some r & r. (Sometime this summer.) I've had a rough work schedule and truly need a few days away.
Please let me know when it might work for you too. As you know, I'm considering going to the protest in S.F. except I'd have to take time away from work. But other than a little wacky schedule this summer, there are breaks I could sneak away for and not miss work. (ha ha ha or driving Miss Daisey.)
by Silence is Complicity on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:37:14 AM PDT
You know that. Come anytime.
Remember the Christmas when I had 21 people here? THAT'S the record. It's not like we're booked up in the summer like that, and the spouse can take off of work whenever h wants in the summer to go sailing.
by Casey Morris on Sun May 04, 2008 at 11:07:22 AM PDT
but I think you're both more Easterners.
Karen:
Whatever you two decide, you will be successful and you will pull through. Knowing how hard you both worked under the most daunting conditions and made it through, I have every confidence you'll make it through this transition just fine.
My needs are getting simpler as the campaign season wears on. Therefore---Unite or Die!
by Fe Bongolan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:44:08 AM PDT
We are planning on it, dearie.
by Casey Morris on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:29:16 AM PDT
3rd week of July
by Fe Bongolan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:24:39 PM PDT
Coincides with the opening of Saratoga. Perfect, we'll go rub elbows with the swells, I can teach you how to handicap horses, and see Big Brown run!
by Casey Morris on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:05:14 AM PDT
in September. They have a countdown calendar. They've been in San Diego as she completed a degree in acupuncture and easter medicine (4 years full time! I am proud of her) but their heart has been north.
I haven't been up there but found San Diego lovely. To help me understand the difference he told me San Diego was like one of my sister, Berkley like the other. I got it! Then he compared them to candidates. (He said Berkley was Obama)
So I'm just saying I've heard wonderful things about how it feels to be there.
by joynow on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:43:53 PM PDT
with a little Ron Paul and Nader thrown in.
Reminds me of Cambridge, only its near the oceans and it smells great. (Not that Cambridge smells, but the flowers in Berkeley are incredible).
by Fe Bongolan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:27:00 PM PDT
I feel exactly, 100% as you do.
Life here has become simply unbearable--and yes, unaffordable.
The daily struggle has no end in sight. The Obama and Clinton healthcare plans--are far, far from adequate. I fear any "reform" will still not make healthcare an affordable and guaranteed right.
I no longer recognize this country as the land of my birth.
The American people do not know the truth, thanks to the corporate media being fundementally a wing of the government.
Could you give us the web site which helped you locate the house in Canada? Also, I have heard, is this accurate, that if you buy a home in Canada, the purchase gives you the right to emigrate and access the "socialist" healthcare system?
by nyceve on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:52:05 AM PDT
http://www.tradewindsrealty.com/...
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:55:39 AM PDT
goes to college in Canada and has full coverage. She had surgery last summer. We signed one piece of paper. Once.
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:56:45 AM PDT
but thank you for it. I wish you well. And thanks for the work you did on the Kerry campaign and all else. Edwards' health plan was far from what I wanted, too. Anybody remember Dennis K.? Good luck.
This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected.
by Batbird on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:29:33 AM PDT
....and his ideas on peace and international cooperation, wanting to repeal the patriot act. Geesh, what a fool.
If we cannot elect this man, we don't deserve him.
by lisastar on Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:10:06 AM PDT
Geesh, what a fool.
mean the opposite, I'm guessing...
Love is the source, substance and future of all being. --St. Francis
by ksingh on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:04:09 PM PDT
by lisastar on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:14:20 PM PDT
I too think it was obvious and am happy to give you the opportunity to confirm that ~:)
by ksingh on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:13:08 PM PDT
Also, I have heard, is this accurate, that if you buy a home in Canada, the purchase gives you the right to emigrate
Well, you certainly have the right to emigrate from the U.S., but not a right to immigrate into Canada.
Most Americans are able to enter Canada as visitors quite easily, for several months at a time. That kind of visa doesn't make people eligible for provincial health insurance, however.
Right now, Canada Immigration has a backlog, and the department processes applications for permanent residence quite slowly.
by True North on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:22:50 AM PDT
But it's not impossible by any means.
Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks and a heart transplant is free.
by dpc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:37:51 AM PDT
dpc, you're quite right--it is certainly possible to immigrate to Canada.
And there is more than one way to go about it.
Most people who consider immigrating to Canada find out about the rules for skilled immigrants, family members, and the like from the website.
Most provinces also have arrangements with Canada Immigration that allow the province to nominate people for immigration. The provincial government body that handles this usually works most closely with employers, not individual would-be immigrants. For people who have skills that are badly needed in a particular province, this may be a faster way to be accepted as a landed immigrant than the standard skilled worker application. The individual gains access to this process by finding a potential employer first, and then the employer works with the province to have the individual nominated to CIC.
And Quebec runs its own immigration program, along the same lines of--but not identical to--CIC.
I live in Alberta, where there is a desperate labor shortage in many, many areas.
Many people come to Alberta on two-year temporary work visas.
From what I understand, a person can start the process of applying for a temporary work visa directly (perhaps even on-line), and get approval in principle, and then can start looking for an employer. The employer has to show that there are no Canadians available to fill the job. However, since there is a shortage of everybody in Alberta, that should not be a major problem
There are a lot of abuses of this system, some of which are connected to the activities of brokers who find potential workers for employers. Americans who want to work in a place like Alberta would probably be better off just applying directly to potential employers, and perhaps visiting and making the rounds, rather than using a broker.
The temporary work visas are available in other places, too, but approval depends on the local situation. Alberta and B.C. both have labor shortages, so it is easier to get the visas in those two provinces.
So, I agree entirely with dpc--it is not only possible, but Canada is actually quite keen to attract new people.
From what I've heard through the media, new immigrants to Canada in recent years -- since November 2004, actually -- included a number of gay and lesbian couples who decided it was time to find a more welcoming environment. Canada's gain, America's loss.
by True North on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:03:28 AM PDT
when did running away solve anything? I don't know you, but, I'm gonna stay & fight. Buh-bye. Don't let the door...
by Thinking Fella on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:23:50 PM PDT
and some people move other places.
Sometimes people who move to other places migrate back to the hometown later on.
Some people want the experience of living in different places, and even in different countries, and different cultures. Some like staying put in their own country.
Me, I grew up on a military base--so I didn't have a hometown to stay put in, and didn't have staying-put genes, either.
But for you, Thinking Fella, staying in one place lifelong obviously works well--which is just fine.
by True North on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:30:36 PM PDT
reread.
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:35:54 PM PDT
When you buy a house in Canada... all you really have is a house in Canada. There are loads of different ways to immigrate to Canada but I've never heard of that one. I've been up here as a student for a few years and I've looked about just about all the ways to stay.
If your curious about all the different ways you can do it check out two places...
One Citizenship and Immigration Canada's Website http://www.cic.gc.ca
And the British Expats Canadian Immigration WebBoard(Great advice and a wealth of Knowledge on the topic) http://britishexpats.com/...
I would also look at NAFTA Appendix G, it lists 60 professions that aren't covered under the Labor Market Opinion process that Canadian employers have to use to hire foriegners. If you can get an Employer to hire you in one of these 60 you can get a Work Permit and get Healthcare in your Province where you move.
After your there you can work on other means of staying like a Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) or other such stuff that an employer can help with.
As for HealthCare specifically I know in British Columbia (Vancouver area) where I am if you are here on a Visa/Permit for longer than 6 months you are automatically covered by the Provincial Health plan. It generally costs 162 dollars every 4 months.
by Eckhart1234 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:20:21 AM PDT
Are you an American citizen?
I have a kid thinking of applying there...
"War is the calculated and condoned slaughter of human beings". Harry Patch, age 109, WWI veteran.
by skwimmer on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:44:03 PM PDT
Yeah, I am. I'm also American. I think I'm one of the few people with a southern accent. I'm been getting the second Masters degree at UBC. It's a great school or at least I've enjoyed being here. Its like a small city actually (approx 40000) people.
I would highly recommend UBC to anyone. The only thing to be aware of is that there will be a bit of culture shock for the first semester or so up here. While the US and Canada are very very similar countries the little culture nuances take a bit of time to get used to.
Anyway I think UBC is great and Vancouver is lovely if a bit rainy at times.
by Eckhart1234 on Sun May 04, 2008 at 08:07:17 AM PDT
a few times, mainly to go to the Anthrop. Museum. We are just south of Victoria and spend a few weeks a year in B.C., trying to blend in.
What advantages do American students get in B.C., in your experience? We were told at UVic that they love us because we are the only students that actually pay cash! What are your health care arrangements?
by skwimmer on Mon May 05, 2008 at 02:28:00 PM PDT
I have the same health care that everyone else does. I applied using the standard govt forms so that it came online after my requisite 3 month lag. It also get extended health through the student society at UBC.
It is nice that all Americans can apply for a Study Permit at the Airport (YVR) instead of having to send away for one. Being able to do banking in both countries over the web and being able to transfer money back and forth has been nice too. Well we mostly pay with US Student Loans so we do bring real cash upfront instead of them having to wait on the Canadian Govt with their own version of Student Loans.
by Eckhart1234 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:36:41 PM PDT
Is there a limit to the number of months you can stay? Do you go home to work, or is there any way to earn some kind of stipend?
by skwimmer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:46:05 PM PDT
How long you can stay is dependent on your Visa status. The Immigration folks tend to offer STudy Permits for the full length of your education and now they have generous Post Graduation Work Permit programs too. A student can legally work on campus without further permit or they can apply for an Off-Campus Work Permit to let them work out in the wider community while enrolled full-time in school.
So it's theoretically possible if doing an undergrad to stick around in Canada for about 7 years... 4 years Study Permit and 3 Post Grad Work Permit.
Or even longer if a person gets and employer to sponsor them for Permanet Residence (similar to a US Green card) and then eventual citizenship. That process has varying lengths depending on how you go about it.
by Eckhart1234 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 07:18:02 AM PDT
to live and work in B.C. for 7 years!
by skwimmer on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:05:24 AM PDT
most of the year, plentiful opportunities for wind power and geothermal, great people, and affordable communities. And Iowa City has a Big Ten research institution with an incredible progressive population that engages in the discussions of reasoned society from an outside-the-beltway perspective.
Welcome.
Low-Information: it's the new Stupid-7.12/-5.95
by MooseHB on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:59:16 AM PDT
The rest of the state is like Utah or Missouri, unfortunately.
by manumoka on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:32:43 PM PDT
we'd get out after the 2004 elections, partly because I firmly believe they, too, were stolen, and partly because America, after all the shit Bush-Cheney had pulled, still voted closely enough for them to let the Republicans steal it without much notice.
That isn't the America I grew up believing in, and the kind of population that would support Bush's all-out assault on everything I believe in wasn't the kind of country I wanted to call myself a part of.
"They blamed it on the Islamic fanatics, at the time. [...] That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary." -Handmaid's Tale
by Cenobyte on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:13:33 AM PDT
In 2000, a criminal became President. In 2004, we failed to remove him.American Democracy, 1787-2004, RIP
by davewill on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:20:54 PM PDT
that fence that I can touch it.
Not yet.
But I'm conscious of it. Very.
For me, November is make or break. McSame means we leave.
We need not think alike to love alike -- Ferenc Dávid
by ogre on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:36:37 PM PDT
for the first time in my 50-year life. I've always felt a degree of contempt for those who blithely talk of moving to Canada if they don't like who gets elected.
But this time is different. In so many ways, and so deeply.
This time, it's not about one candidate vs. another. It's about choosing truth over lies; it's about whether we want to live in a world that is Orwell's 1984 brought to shocking, horrifying life; it's about whether we understand that the time the Constitution matters MOST is when we're afraid of external threats, because that's when we're most likely to allow the knock on the door in the middle of the night by those who claim to be protecting us.
This time it's about whether we actually believe in the power of the people to change what is wrong in our world, or whether instead we allow them to kill our power by believing them when they tell us "politics ain't beanbag" and "you can't reason with those people, because the only argument they understand is violence" and "if you're not tough enough to stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Never in my lifetime have we had what I consider such a clear choice between either choosing to run this country by the principles that have always been my most cherished ideals, or choosing to return, voluntarily, to the swamp muck that politics has become.
It really is light vs. darkness this time. And the truth as I see it is that BOTH Clinton and McCaingry are denizens of the darkness.
And having seen a glimpse of the light, I just don't know that I can, or am willing to, sink quietly back down into the swamp, accepting the muck as normal, hoping that I live long enough to see one more "next time."
Onward to the Mountaintop!
by NWTerriD on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:21:11 PM PDT
I am so pleased to read your story. It is a sign to me that things really are changing. I especially like the calm power that you demonstrate in your handing of this situation.
But I'm afraid that now that I have heard your great story, I want to be able to follow your adventures. Are you still going to be karendc?
If you like Iraq, you're gonna love Iran.
by FundaMental Transformation on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:42:24 PM PDT
KarenDC!
This will always be a place I consider home.
by karendc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:47:24 PM PDT
in some small town in America. Small towns are desperate for an infusion of outside resources: skills, money, connections and experience. You can work within an established organizations or start a new one and have an immediate impact. Because the pond is small, so is the line between your actions and your impacts. You get immediate feedback when you have made a positive difference and you have more control over the procedss.
We now live in a rural area and have found that we can indeed make a difference. When just half a dozen people band together to achieve a common goal, it can result in local progress in health care, sustainability, domestic abuse, tolerance and so many other things.
Thank you for all your efforts on the national scene.
by Heart of the Rockies on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:24:45 AM PDT
Don't give up on the solar, wind, and rural idea here.
I love rural NM,AZ,CO, and OK for rural SOLAR.
Great land buys too.
Might want to consider keeping your money in the bank and get your property for very little down.
I like alt. energy stocks as the new potential REV. Source, while you build very small.
I am also looking for land in those same rural markets.
Ecosystems empowerment for the rural poor.
by 1Eco on Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:11:32 AM PDT
and there's so much sunshine that solar is a great way to go. And apparently becoming quite popular. The State of Colorado has made it more affordable with energy rebates.
by Heart of the Rockies on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:02:24 AM PDT
we need more Dems to move to the Mountain West!
Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
by TrueBlueMajority on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:17:34 PM PDT
we like our wide open spaces.
Actually, we moved 1100 miles east to come here!
by Heart of the Rockies on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:07:50 PM PDT
in Northern California (way north near the Oregon border).
When we moved here twenty five years ago, one of our worries was that the community would be a closed community with old established families firmly in control of community issues...we were happily surprised. We were asked to help from day one. Sma