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My grandfather was a child of the depression and never threw anything out. Old wire, broken tools, etc. were hung on the barn wall. We're back to those days now. Monsanto is now starting to control the garden and farm seed world. Buy your seeds from SSE or companies like Fedco. Grow your own or buy from a local farmer or farmer's market!
Esse quam videri
by Ptown boy in NC on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:55:04 AM PDT
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by Ptown boy in NC on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:57:02 AM PDT
the rant will go on for a real long time. I have joked (but it isn't funny) that if the court cases go the way they're going you are going to see farmers in my area marching with pitchforks in hand on Monsanto's headquarters.
Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.
by webranding on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:00:53 AM PDT
Peak oil stretches the distance between two points. Global labor arbitrage is coming apart. You'll know the person who grows your food. There is no room for sociopathic virtual middlemen in this. We'll have to rip them up by the roots, but when the ripping starts we'll find out just how shallowly attached they are in the face of voter wrath.
by Stranded Wind on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:07:16 AM PDT
some of my food. Not that long ago I ran into what I'd call an ethical dilemma. I love meat. I mean love meat. But I saw a story that PETA had given KFC some recommendations on how to treat animals in a more humane manner. The cost was one cent per chicken. They rejected the proposed changes.
So not wanting to give up meat I started to ask some questions. I quickly found I could get most of it locally. The price is a little higher. More effort. But I feel a lot better about it.
by webranding on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:14:08 AM PDT
I must say at this point that I'm growing to despite PETA. They can't get at the horrible corporate farms so they run around causing trouble for the little guys.
The male goats on this farm are destined for slaughter. They can go at fifteen to twenty pounds into various local markets ... but PETA ensures they have to be kept and fed until thirty five pounds. Reasoning? They're too cute to kill when they're little.
This sort of fuzzy headed activism will be coming undone very shortly; we can't afford to have uninvolved parties getting under foot like this.
by Stranded Wind on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:17:30 AM PDT
saying I am no fan of PETA. They're a little over-the-top for me. I've recused more then a few animals. I do care. But from time to time I can enjoy a pork chop, omelette, or even (cringe) some venison that I shot with a bow.
by webranding on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:21:20 AM PDT
And our teeth prove it. Those who're trying to enforce their beliefs on others are just like the marriage protection crowd - in need of a rap on the nose with a rolled up magazine as part of an effort to get them to mind their own business.
The best ones are those who carry on about putting their cats on vegetarian diets - talk about cruelty to animals!
by Stranded Wind on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:33:42 AM PDT
and it stuns me people tell me I ought to serve them a non-meat diet. I've read more than I care to admit on the topic and the estimates I see is doing this can cut 2-3 years off of their lives.
Now Hell's Kitchen is a terrible show, but Gordon Ramsay's BBC show is amazing. In one show he buys a number of pigs. Has his children raise them. Then allows them to witness how they get to our table.
I am sure some would scream "child abuse" but I think it is a pretty insightful concept.
by webranding on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:45:36 AM PDT
It's not just about animal rights. The environmental and energy impact from growing meat is really mind boggling. If you take anything from this, at least read the first page of that NYT article for the comparisons of how much energy goes into a pound of meat. Example:
To put the energy-using demand of meat production into easy-to-understand terms, Gidon Eshel, a geophysicist at the Bard Center, and Pamela A. Martin, an assistant professor of geophysics at the University of Chicago, calculated that if Americans were to reduce meat consumption by just 20 percent it would be as if we all switched from a standard sedan - a Camry, say - to the ultra-efficient Prius. Similarly, a study last year by the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Japan estimated that 2.2 pounds of beef is responsible for the equivalent amount of carbon dioxide emitted by the average European car every 155 miles, and burns enough energy to light a 100-watt bulb for nearly 20 days.
Lastly:
Want to talk about cruelty to animals? Vegetarian diets for cats include supplements to make up for the nutrients that the cats can't get naturally (if they don't have those nutrients, then yes, it is cruelty). Well, guess what? Cats will suffer in the exact same way on a diet of cooked meat, which is also not part of their natural diet. Cooking meat denatures some of the nutrients that cats need to survive. Cat food companies take meat scraps, cook them (this losing the nutrients), then add them back in, in the same way that vegetarian cat foods do. All that changes is the base -- whether the protein comes from things like yeast or whether it comes from things like cow innards (again, not part of a cat's natural diet, which is mostly the whole bodies of rodents and birds). Yes, I'd call commercial cat food closer to their natural diet, but it is anything but natural.
by Rei on Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:50:45 AM PDT
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