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  •  Jeez, I thought it was a naval metaphor (2+ / 0-)

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    And as such, a nod to Mccain's military career--shorthand for the way Obama talked about McCain in North Carolina Tuesday night.

    •  There was a key! (3+ / 0-)

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      McCain wants to know who ate them strawberries.

      Rubus Eradicandus Est.

      by Randomfactor on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:31:25 AM PDT

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      •  Y'know (2+ / 0-)

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        ...with all the superstitious talismans McThuselah carries around, can we be sure he DOESN'T have a pair of ball-bearings in one of his pockets?  

        Rubus Eradicandus Est.

        by Randomfactor on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:32:21 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, my god (2+ / 0-)

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          I just remembered the title of the movie.  How COULD I have forgotten "The McCain Mutiny"?

          Rubus Eradicandus Est.

          by Randomfactor on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:45:56 AM PDT

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          •  You're riffing here. (1+ / 0-)

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            Very funny but no one under sixty knows what the hell you're talking about. I'm old enough to have seen the movie in the theater in it's initial run and I'm 5 years younger than McCain. Even I know that if he doesn't realize he's being a damned old fool then he should be quietly led off to a nursing home and made to sit in restraints near the nurses station with the rest of the severely mentally delusional and grandiose and sad old greyhairs who think they're running for president. That having been said, I think that some of the jokes about old people here are hurtful and embarrassing to those of us who still have all their marbles and who wouldn't think of making a spectacle of their having lived long and dignified lives. He's not doing us guys in his generation any favors by being in denial of the simple fact that our time for running things is over and there's nothing wrong with that.

            •  I'm 8.5 years under sixty (1+ / 0-)

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              ...and I know lots of seniors much sharper than I, let alone McCain.

              Remember the point of the courtroom scene--to goad the captain into showing just how unstable he really was.  A large part of our campaign, I fear, will have to be goading McCain into making stupid mistakes on camera.

              I just wish someone had the courage to point out the true instigator of the McCain candidacy is.  The guy who destabilized the ship of state to the point where someone like McCain, who could have contributed to his country for years yet, was pushed into a situation where he's in way over his head.  

              Yet, as in the movie, it may be necessary to destabilize McCain in just that way.

              I'd toast that man, if I could, in the way highlighted at the end of the movie.

              Rubus Eradicandus Est.

              by Randomfactor on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:49:14 AM PDT

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              •  totally agree. (0+ / 0-)

                It was satisfying to watch in the movie but painful, nonetheless. The same here. It will be no fun to see McC embarrassed and stumbling around and may garner him some sympathy and outrage for Obama. He might have to pass on that job to his vp candidate.  

                •  I've never seen the movie (2+ / 0-)

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                  But I recall when I read the book that at the end the lawyer was being congratulated by his clients and he turned on them, saying (IIRC from many years ago) that men like Queeg were the ones who "stopped the Nazis from washing their asses with my grandmother."  That line just floored me, and it's still analogous today.  McCain served our country well and bravely, it's not appropriate to cheer his downfall but for the greater good if he needs to be exposed for the doddering fraud he's become then it will be done but we shouldn't take any pleasure from the doing.

                  It's sad, really--McCain used to be someone I could respect and I feel oddly betrayed that he's fallen so far into the slime pit in pursuit of the presidency.  

                  •  I deeply respect the man's courage as a POW, (0+ / 0-)

                    but we should not whitewash his career since then.  The "maverick" persona was always a (mostly well-) crafted bit of marketing, never as true as we all were led to believe.  And to have the chutzpah to run on that masquerade is supremely arrogant, IMHO.  He's fair game, in almost every respect.  Take him down (if he doesn't take himself down).  There'll be plenty of time to honor his service again later.

            •  I should add (1+ / 0-)

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              that I think McCain's age is a perfectly legitimate target for Obama and he should hammer McCain relentlessly on it. McC's spokesman's response will become a meme: McCain's age is off limits, no fair, ageist, cruel, not substantive, off-topic, irrelevant, how-dare-you-you-young-negro-disrespect-our-seniors-you-should-know-your-place.  
              Obama will have to be careful so they don't set up that wall. "lost his bearings" was subtle and masterful.

        •  The way he kisses up to Bush... (1+ / 0-)

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          wonderful world

          it's a sure thing he doesn't have a pair of balls in his pocket.

          "War is a cowardly escape from the problems of peace." - Thomas Mann

          by Tom Paul on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:36:08 AM PDT

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