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  •  yet she still is polling higher than Obama (1+ / 0-)

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    against McCain in many groups including among Democrats, and in electoral college votes matching both candidates against McCain, she has been alone in beating McCain for the last month in electoral college votes.
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    •  Old news... (4+ / 0-)

      Have you looked at the date on that poll?

      "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

      by Riddle on Fri May 09, 2008 at 08:47:36 AM PDT

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      •  todays electoral college votes (0+ / 0-)

        show her still beating McCain, not Obama, as she has been doing since PA. A picture of last week is the same going back a while, today she beats McCain 280/258.
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        So I don't see huge demographic swings from week to week. This is really how it looks if you read the exit polls from each primary. Now that Rasmussen will not poll any more between Clinton and Obama, this is as much as we know(part of the ec poll is state by state Rasmussens.)

        •  I believe you're cherry-picking results... (0+ / 0-)

          You could as well have used Rasmussen's daily tracking poll, which today states (in part):

          The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 47% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This is the fourth straight day that Obama has had at least a one-point advantage over McCain. While it is not a statistically significant lead, it is the first time Obama has led McCain on consecutive days in two months. The last time Obama outpolled McCain for four straight days was in mid-February (see recent daily results). One key to this changing dynamic is that Obama now leads McCain among unaffiliated voters by nine percentage points.

          As we look to November, the Obama-McCain match-up will feature a clear generational component. Obama leads by twenty-three percentage points among voters under 40 while McCain leads by eleven among those over 50.

          "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

          by Riddle on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:12:18 AM PDT

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          •  yes that nationwide poll shows a general (0+ / 0-)

            national preference, however, since the electoral college site I linked is compiling many state by state polls, it is perhaps more important, as it assigns likely states won or lost by the electoral college votes that decide elections.

            I would call it the opposite of cherry picking, as it is a composite of polls. And more relevant in the general, as it matches that data with electoral votes per state.

            From that we can see why big states that have more electoral votes are indeed more important to win than smaller states with few electoral college votes or hopelessly Republican dominated states. Not to diss those of us Democrats who live there, but just being realistic about chances to take the White House, which we really need to do.

    •  Wow! That poll tells us that Obama's campaign (1+ / 0-)

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      needs to teach the low income voters how McCain's party hurts them.  They have been so thoroughly indoctrinated by the MSM that it won't be easy.

      I have taught classes for kids with learning disabilities, and I learned not to use too many "big words."  I think that's how the "elitist" tag sticks.  My students felt really hurt when I used words they didn't understand.  They thought I was trying to humiliate them.  The Republicans realize this, which is why Bush says "nucular" and so on.

      I wonder if they could do focus groups to see how these folks can be reached.  

      Seriously, if anyone should vote for Obama, it's the lower income voters.  They are voting against their own self interests, voting for McCain.

      He needs to talk to them directly.  Tell them he knows how they are finding it hard to make ends meet and tell them that he will help them.  Tell them that Bush and the Republicans only give the American people lip service, but listen to the lobbyists, who are shipping their jobs overseas and closing American plants.  

      Look straight into the camera and ask them to hear what he has to say.  "I am working for you and your family, not the lobbyists and special interests that do what is best for the CEOs and the real 'elitists,' who only care about their bottom line, not yours."

      Perhaps he could hold a press conference or an ad in a town that has been hit hard, in front of a closed down company to illustrate his points.  (That's another way to reach them: visually.  They remember images, which is why the Republicans focus on flag pins, a visual, to get accross concepts.)

      Or he could go to a grocery store, shopping with his kids, and pick up gallon of milk and say, "Milk has gone up X% this week.  Then be pumping gas into his car, shake his head, "Ouch!"  Then be with a group of average folks and tell them how he will address their problems.  "Look, I have a plan to help you and America work again.  I have a plan to build better, more fuel efficient cars..."

      Information is the currency of democracy. ~ T.J.

      by CIndyCasella on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:11:41 AM PDT

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